Re: [Sursound] Soundfield-type mics: inverting or not?

2011-10-09 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 02:01:50PM -0500, David Pickett wrote: > At 04:39 09/10/2011, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > >On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 10:16:22AM +0100, dave.mal...@york.ac.uk wrote: > > > >> Does anyone know, of the top of their heads, > >> if a film set type clapper board reliably provides a pos

Re: [Sursound] Soundfield-type mics: inverting or not?

2011-10-09 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 10/09/2011 09:01 PM, David Pickett wrote: At 04:39 09/10/2011, Fons Adriaensen wrote: >On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 10:16:22AM +0100, dave.mal...@york.ac.uk wrote: >> Does anyone know, of the top of their heads, >> if a film set type clapper board reliably provides a positive going >> leading e

Re: [Sursound] Soundfield-type mics: inverting or not?

2011-10-09 Thread David Pickett
At 04:39 09/10/2011, Fons Adriaensen wrote: >On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 10:16:22AM +0100, dave.mal...@york.ac.uk wrote: > >> Does anyone know, of the top of their heads, >> if a film set type clapper board reliably provides a positive going >> leading edge to it's impulse? I can't see it not, but I'd

Re: [Sursound] Soundfield-type mics: inverting or not?

2011-10-09 Thread David Pickett
At 04:16 09/10/2011, dave.mal...@york.ac.uk wrote: Does anyone know, of the top of their heads, if a film set type clapper board reliably provides a positive going leading edge to it's impulse? I can't see it not, but I'd prefer that to be confirmed by repeatable experiments. It surely has t

Re: [Sursound] Soundfield-type mics: inverting or not?

2011-10-09 Thread Len Moskowitz
Daniel Courville wrote: I think we should try to establish some sort of "official" database of what SoundField (and TetraMic) models are polarity inverting at the B-Format output. Using the original cylindrical PPA, TetraMic's A-format outputs were inverting. Using the current PPA2, its A-f

Re: [Sursound] Soundfield-type mics: inverting or not?

2011-10-09 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 10:16:22AM +0100, dave.mal...@york.ac.uk wrote: > Does anyone know, of the top of their heads, > if a film set type clapper board reliably provides a positive going > leading edge to it's impulse? I can't see it not, but I'd prefer that to > be confirmed by repeatable ex

Re: [Sursound] Soundfield-type mics: inverting or not?

2011-10-09 Thread dave . malham
Second cup of coffee has now penetrated and I realise I forgot about the stereo - still, essentially the same, except we say that it's non-inverting if a due front pressure increase produces a positive signal in both channels. Dave On Oct 9 2011, dave.mal...@york.ac.uk wrote: Hi folks,

Re: [Sursound] Soundfield-type mics: inverting or not?

2011-10-09 Thread dave . malham
Hi folks, A wet Sunday morning and I haven't been up that long (only on first cup of coffee) so I hope this will make sense! Surely all that is actually needed, at least as far as B format is concerned, is whether the W signal goes positive for a pressure increase? Everything else is given

Re: [Sursound] Soundfield-type mics: inverting or not?

2011-10-09 Thread Michael Chapman
> On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 08:24:02AM -, Michael Chapman wrote: > >> for TetraProc: >> -it allows inversion, or not, at the user's choice >> (it actually allows it on a per channel (per mic capsule) basis >> -it also allows ... to complicate your task ... 'Endfire' > > Not really exact. > > Tetr

Re: [Sursound] Soundfield-type mics: inverting or not?

2011-10-09 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 08:24:02AM -, Michael Chapman wrote: > for TetraProc: > -it allows inversion, or not, at the user's choice > (it actually allows it on a per channel (per mic capsule) basis > -it also allows ... to complicate your task ... 'Endfire' Not really exact. Tetraproc allows

Re: [Sursound] Soundfield-type mics: inverting or not?

2011-10-09 Thread Michael Chapman
> Le 11-10-07 17:40, Sampo Syreeni a �crit : > >>On 2011-09-30, Daniel Courville wrote: >> >>>I think we should try to establish some sort of "official" database of >>>what SoundField (and TetraMic) models are polarity inverting at the >>>B-Format output. >> >>In that case we first need a datal mod