Re: [Sursound] distance perception in virtual environments

2011-04-28 Thread Robert Greene
Actually, the butterfly flap thing is not really good either. In chaos, things do not cause other things. The system is essentially noncausal. This is a trick point. But if a system depends unstably on its initial state, it makes no real sense to say that it depends on its initial state at all in

Re: [Sursound] distance perception in virtual environments

2011-04-28 Thread Martin Leese
Helmut Oellers wrote: > 2011/4/26 Dave Malham >> On 24/04/2011 19:11, Helmut Oellers wrote: >>>...modern computers are also clever. Today nothing is unaccountable if we >>> know the formula and all variables. >> >> That's a BIG assumption - and given the essentially chaotic (in the >> mat

Re: [Sursound] distance perception in virtual environments

2011-04-28 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2011-04-28, Helmut Wittek wrote: it's no easy task to evaluate distance perception under anechoic conditions (which obviously hardly exists). By the way, I think that is one of the reasons anechoic rooms are perceptually so overwhelming and induce the kind of anxiety they do: in the absen

Re: [Sursound] distance perception in virtual environments

2011-04-28 Thread Helmut Wittek
Hello Junfeng, it's no easy task to evaluate distance perception under anechoic conditions (which obviously hardly exists). We did this during my PhD research on WFS. Have a look at our paper: Wittek, H., Kerber, S., Rumsey, F. and Theile, G. Spatial perception in Wave Field Synthesis rendered s

Re: [Sursound] distance perception in virtual environments(OT)

2011-04-28 Thread umashankar mantravadi
at the universe is > nondeterministic. > > Robert > > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL

Re: [Sursound] distance perception in virtual environments(OT)

2011-04-28 Thread Robert Greene
The deterministic universe idea departed from serious science almost 100 years ago since qunatum mechanics is by nature nondeterministic. (More precisely, 80 some years ago if you want to wait for people to have realized exactly how intrinsic the nondeterminacy was--Heisenberg formulated his

Re: [Sursound] distance perception in virtual environments

2011-04-28 Thread Helmut Oellers
interest, I can describing the main principle as short as possible in a next mail. Regards, Helmut -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110428/60be7d3c/attachment.html> _