Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-20 Thread Alexander Wolf
2012/3/20 Chiraag Juvekar : > I think the ideal way ahead would be to add an advanced user section. > Something like a hidden interface that is folded by default. > Someone who really needs the extra interface can unfold it and click the > additional button. > Perhaps like the under the hood sectio

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-20 Thread Bogdan Marinov
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Barry Gerdes wrote: > Hi Bogdan > > The issue of DSO displays has been around for some time. > The initial work was done about version 0.7.1 I think when Fabien was first > working on the DSS display. > There was an extra button on a prototype GUI F4 menu in versi

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread edtakken
Hi Tom, It is the keystroke equivalents that are magic. The menus after a while are just a help display. Sub-menus can be used to make things fit on a small display. Ed On Mar 19, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Thomas Morris wrote: > Hi Ed, > > I'm not convinced that replacing the nebula sliders with a drop

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread Barry Gerdes
" > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 20:29:58 +0200 > From: daggers...@gmail.com > To: stellarium-pubdevel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:13 PM, bdwashbu wrote: > > Bogdan - thanks

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread Thomas Morris
Hi Ed, I'm not convinced that replacing the nebula sliders with a drop-down menu would be more intuitive although I'm no expert on GUI design. Bear in mind that non-numerical information needs translations unless you use icons, potentially causing layout problems. Also drop-down menus wouldn't fit

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread edtakken
I'm suggesting no advanced user section and no plugin GUI. Seems to me that there is a better way to do this and more. Link to notes sent a few minutes ago with same "From: Ed Takken" (Sorry if my notes are a bit short and inadequate. Hope to improve them soon.) Ed On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:02 PM

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread edtakken
Hi Thomas and Brian, I think the way to do this one, as well as make the user interface both more facile and intuitive, is with drop-down menus. I put a draft of my idea at takken.us/stellarium, but need to do more to explain it. I suggest that the present slide bars are an encumbrance for the

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread Chiraag Juvekar
I think the ideal way ahead would be to add an advanced user section. Something like a hidden interface that is folded by default. Someone who really needs the extra interface can unfold it and click the additional button. Perhaps like the under the hood section on chrome. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread bdwashbu
So going forward, it sounds like the options are: 1.) Change the main GUI and NebulaMgr/Nebula code (no) 2.) Add a plugin GUI and change the NebulaMgr/Nebula code 3.) Add a plugin duplicating the NebulaMgr/Nebula code 4.) Adjust the plugin code interface. Would still have to change nebulaMgr to it

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread Bogdan Marinov
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:13 PM, bdwashbu wrote: > Bogdan - thanks for the input.  I suspected there was a reason this feature > didn't exist.  As the new guy, I never meant to disrespect the current GUI > philosophies or the work you've done.  What you guys have already created is > awesome!  I d

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread bdwashbu
Bogdan - thanks for the input. I suspected there was a reason this feature didn't exist. As the new guy, I never meant to disrespect the current GUI philosophies or the work you've done. What you guys have already created is awesome! I don't want to make it worse. A plugin sounds like a good a

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread Thomas Morris
Hi Brian, Perhaps this could be implemented as a plug-in? ("extended DSO controls" or something like that). Personally I would like some extended controls particularly for making full use of the new NGC data catalogue. (Galaxy display based on surface brightness for example, which would certainly

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread Bogdan Marinov
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:48 AM, bdwashbu wrote: > Cool! > > I have a prototype image here: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/81471534@N00/6848489598/lightbox/ Oh, my, more interface clutter. While users have requested a way to select which categories of DSOs are displayed, I think that a separate s

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-18 Thread Alexander Wolf
Hello! Sounds a good idea for me too, but I think this idea need combine with update DSO catalog for provide more useful feature. -- With best regards, Alexander -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-18 Thread bdwashbu
Cool! I have a prototype image here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/81471534@N00/6848489598/lightbox/ Maybe we should consider working from the same branch, but I'm not sure. On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Thomas Morris wrote: > Hi, > > Sounds a good idea to me. Worth noting that with the new N

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-18 Thread Thomas Morris
Hi, Sounds a good idea to me. Worth noting that with the new NGC DSO catalogue from Prof Wolfgang Steinicke we'll be able to filter on galaxy surface brightness as well as magnitude (and other fields too, if desired). Have a look in Nebula.cpp from the new NGC catalogue branch if interested. http

[Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-18 Thread bdwashbu
Hello everyone, I'm new and very excited to be working on Stellarium! I have an idea for my first activity. Right now, in the Sky and Viewing options "Sky" tab, there is a single slider for "Nebulas". Not only is the term "Nebulas" a little misleading, I believe, but it isn't specific enough. M