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> >
> >>
> >> I guess he assumed the relative velocities were too high for the
> >> crossing connection.
> >>
> >> I asked Bard "How many laser transponders are in a
> >>
d for its previous answer.
I remain an "AI" skeptic:
https://circleid.com/posts/20230721-google-bard-fails-to-answer-satellite-internet-questions
*From:* Starlink on
behalf of David Lang via Starlink
*Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2023 1:41 AM
*To:* Alexandre Petre
asked, Bard apologized for its previous answer.
I remain an "AI" skeptic:
https://circleid.com/posts/20230721-google-bard-fails-to-answer-satellite-internet-questions
*From:* Starlink on
behalf of David Lang via Starlink
*Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2023 1:41 AM
On 25/09/2023 15:00, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink wrote:
IPv6 adoption in Australia (and NZ) is a bit behind the curve,
internationally.
A bit? We're dragging our heels :) Very strange too since Geoff is from
AU, in fact my home city, fun fact, until I move about 15 years ago we
apparently
To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] APNIC56 last week
On 25/09/2023 5:40 pm, Noel Butler via Starlink wrote:
Mail is mostly Australian since that's where my userbase is, but there is
considerable international (even when I exclude the spambots, gmail, outlook
social
On 25/09/2023 5:40 pm, Noel Butler via Starlink wrote:
Mail is mostly Australian since that's where my userbase is, but there
is considerable international (even when I exclude the spambots,
gmail, outlook socials etc), as for WWW, and excluding most bots, last
time I checked webalizer the figu
On 23/09/2023 20:53, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink wrote:
Now what that tells me is that you and those that use your mail / web
servers are within networks that are either in networks that are old
and have legacy IPv4 allocations, or that are new, desparate, and rich.
Mail is mostly Australian
On 25/09/2023 04:30, Michael Richardson wrote:
FUD they came out with in mid 90's about IPv4's imminent demise giving
I think you malign Geoff to no purpose.
Geoff Houston is brilliant in putting up well thought out strawmans
(strawmen? Strawpeople?), often with the goal of cristalizing what
Noel Butler via Starlink wrote:
> Despite my high level of respect for Geoff, he, and others like him, often
> talk things up to push things their way of thinking, we only need look at
the
> FUD they came out with in mid 90's about IPv4's imminent demise giving
I think you malign Ge
time I asked, Bard
> apologized for its previous answer.
>
> I remain an "AI" skeptic:
>
> https://circleid.com/posts/20230721-google-bard-fails-to-answer-satellite-internet-questions
>
> *From:* Starlink on behalf of
> David Lang via Starlink
> *Sent:* Friday,
> apologized for its previous answer.
>
> I remain an "AI" skeptic:
> https://circleid.com/posts/20230721-google-bard-fails-to-answer-satellite-internet-questions
>
> From: Starlink on behalf of David
> Lang via Starlink
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2023 1:41 AM
&
rd
apologized for its previous answer.
I remain an "AI" skeptic:
https://circleid.com/posts/20230721-google-bard-fails-to-answer-satellite-internet-questions
From: Starlink on behalf of David Lang
via Starlink
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2023 1:41 AM
To: Alexandre Petrescu
Cc: starlin
People who buy IPv4 address blocks can most certainly afford them - the
big buyers are large ISPs and CSPs that offer IPv4 as a service.
Pressure points that make migration to v6 attractive can vary, and don't
always meet the eye. Networks that are heavily NATed are inherently more
complex to
In this Geoff blog (
https://blog.apnic.net/2022/05/04/the-transition-to-ipv6-are-we-there-yet/)
figure 1 shows the increasing IPv6 uptake since 2012 and figure 3 shows the
increasing price of IPv4 addresses. Geoff concluded by saying that he does
not know when the IPv6 transition will end.
Hesham
Hi Ulrich,
nice tangential discussion. I guess what we might expect is some
"Kipp-Punkt"/tipping-point at which acquiring new IPv4 becomes cost prohibitive
enough so new deployments go IPv6 only, at which point the existing IPv4 offers
might devaluate pretty quickly... Now, if IPv6 would have
On 23/09/2023 4:22 pm, Noel Butler via Starlink wrote:
IPv6 is only 4% of traffic that hits my Mail Servers, it's less than
1% on my Web servers.
Just like TCP, it wont be going anywhere, not quietly, and if it were
to, likely be long after I'm gone, QUIC seems an interesting project,
and I gue
Hi,
On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 02:22:58PM +1000, Noel Butler via Starlink wrote:
> Oh I agree it's not a good situation, but my point was it's still most
> dominant 30 years after they claimed we had about 5 years,
This is not actually a contradiction.
IPv4 *has* run out - but that does not mean (
Hi Vint,
On 23/09/2023 11:47, Vint Cerf wrote:
Noel, IPv4 is only managing to work because it is NATted - going to
IPv6 let's us get back to point-to-point in either direction including
rendezvous.
The present IPv4 situation is NOT good - people are paying $35-50 per
IPv4 address to acquire o
Noel, IPv4 is only managing to work because it is NATted - going to IPv6
let's us get back to point-to-point in either direction including
rendezvous.
The present IPv4 situation is NOT good - people are paying $35-50 per IPv4
address to acquire or even to lease them. For all practical purposes, IPv
On 20/09/2023 11:13, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote:
As vs Geoffs presentation on QUIC eating the universe in terms of
traffic volume, and the world becoming a giant content distribution
network, I still hold, that the internet is a communications network,
and that despite content moving ever cl
David Lang wrote:
> We don't know what their routing in space is. But we know that it isn't
just
> up to a single satellite and back down to a ground station.
If the "routing" was all based upon a connecting a circuit from a dishy
to a ground station, and they never look into the packet
We don't know what their routing in space is. But we know that it isn't just up
to a single satellite and back down to a ground station.
But I will say that since they NAT the connection at the ground station (or
Internet peering point), and not allowing dishy-to-dishy direct communications
ye
David Lang via Starlink wrote:
> We know the lasers are in operation as they are providing service to
places
> more than one sat hop away from ground stations. We also know they have a
lot
> of ground stations around to share the load.
But, is it still bent pipe (long, kinked, fine
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Regards,
David
> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 01:41:16 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Lang
> To: Alexandre Petrescu
> Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> Subject: Re: [Starlink] APNIC56 last week
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re Petrescu
To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] APNIC56 last week
Le 21/09/2023 à 21:05, Inemesit Affia via Starlink a écrit :
Not going to go into details but lasers have been identified in photos
of the sats and one of the component suppliers is known. (The scal
Le 21/09/2023 à 21:05, Inemesit Affia via Starlink a écrit :
Not going to go into details but lasers have been identified in photos
of the sats and one of the component suppliers is known. (The scale is
novel, not the tech, demisabiliy is new though)
4 or 2 lasers on each sat (N-S, E-W) is p
One of the things that amazes me is how do they go about focusing the ISLs?
There was a really neat laser MEMs switch chip that google showed off in
some recent presentation that I forget the name of and a few interesting
patents.
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 12:05 PM Inemesit Affia via Starlink <
s
Not going to go into details but lasers have been identified in photos of
the sats and one of the component suppliers is known. (The scale is novel,
not the tech, demisabiliy is new though)
Starlink can't deliver to Antarctica or Northern parts of Alaska, Ascension
Island, Diego Garcia, Easter Isl
Le 19/09/2023 à 06:39, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit :
FWIW, I gave a talk about Starlink - insights from a year in - at last
week's APNIC56 conference in Kyoto:
https://conference.apnic.net/56/program/program/#/day/6/technical-2/
Thanks for the presentation.
I would like to ask what
On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 9:39 PM Ulrich Speidel via Starlink <
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> FWIW, I gave a talk about Starlink - insights from a year in - at last
> week's APNIC56 conference in Kyoto:
>
> https://conference.apnic.net/56/program/program/#/day/6/technical-2/
>
> Also well
FWIW, I gave a talk about Starlink - insights from a year in - at last
week's APNIC56 conference in Kyoto:
https://conference.apnic.net/56/program/program/#/day/6/technical-2/
Also well worth looking at is Geoff Huston's excellent piece on the
foreseeable demise of TCP in favour of QUIC in the
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