Re: [spring] AD Review of draft-ietf-spring-oam-usecase-06

2017-07-01 Thread Carlos Pignataro
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Re: [spring] AD Review of draft-ietf-spring-oam-usecase-06

2017-07-01 Thread Carlos Pignataro
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[spring] Mail regarding draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-characterization

2024-11-20 Thread Carlos Pignataro
3jT9uX40h0/ —>8— It is a work item of the Operations and Management Area Working Group (OPSAWG) WG of the IETF. Title: Guidelines for Characterizing "OAM" Authors: Carlos Pignataro Adrian Farrel Name:draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-characterization-04.txt Pages: 1

Re: [spring] Poll for adoption: draft-kumar-spring-sr-oam-requirement

2015-06-10 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Hi, As a co-author, I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this document. I support adoption of this document. It targets chartered work and a spring milestone. It provides a solid basis for Spring OAM (as co-author). Thumb typed by Carlos Pignataro. Excuze typofraphicak errows On Jun 10

Re: [spring] working group adoption call for draft-geib-spring-oam-usecase

2015-07-23 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Hi, I support adoption of draft-geib-spring-oam-usecase, as a co-author. I am not aware of any undisclosed IPR relevant to this document. Thanks, — Carlos. > On Jul 22, 2015, at 3:13 PM, John G. Scudder wrote: > > Dear WG, > > As we discussed at our meeting yesterday, working group adoption

Re: [spring] working group adoption call for draft-geib-spring-oam-usecase

2015-08-06 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Thank you, Roberta! Please see inline. > On Jul 22, 2015, at 11:55 PM, Roberta Maglione (robmgl) > wrote: > > Hello, > I read the document and I support its adoption as WG item. > I have just few editorial comments: > - I would suggest adding a terminology section to list new acronyms (like >

Re: [spring] working group adoption call for draft-geib-spring-oam-usecase

2015-08-06 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Roberta, > On Aug 6, 2015, at 06:03, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) > wrote: > > Thank you, Roberta! > > Please see inline. > >> On Jul 22, 2015, at 11:55 PM, Roberta Maglione (robmgl) >> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I read the document and I

Re: [spring] [mpls] Clarification on the motivation of draft-xu-spring-islands-connection-over-ip-05

2016-04-11 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
> On Apr 7, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Xuxiaohu wrote: > > On 4/6/2016 11:37 AM, Xuxiaohu wrote: >> The situation in MPLS-SR is a little bit complex since the outgoing label >> for a given /32 or /128 prefix FEC could be learnt either from the IGP >> next-hop of that FEC or the originator of that FEC d

Re: [spring] IPR for draft-ietf-spring-oam-usecase prior to WGLC

2016-07-26 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Hi, The datatracker shows two IPR disclosures against this document, with IDs 2314 and 2406. I am not aware of any additional and undisclosed IPR directly applicable to this I-D. Thanks! Thumb typed by Carlos Pignataro. Excuze typofraphicak errows > On Jul 24, 2016, at 13:47, J

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-oam-usecase

2016-10-03 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Thanks again, Faisal, for taking time to review and comment! All very useful. We will spin a new rev addressing them. Thumb typed by Carlos Pignataro. Excuze typofraphicak errows > On Oct 1, 2016, at 11:02, Faisal Iqbal (faiqbal) wrote: > > Thank you Ruediger for your quick response

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-oam-usecase

2016-10-20 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Dear Bruno, Closing the loop on this WGLC, we just submitted a new revision of this draft addressing all received WGLC comments. Thanks, — Carlos. > On Oct 1, 2016, at 11:01 AM, Faisal Iqbal (faiqbal) wrote: > > Thank you Ruediger for your quick response. I agree with your suggestions and >

[spring] Fwd: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping-01.txt

2016-11-01 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
/Trace for Segment Routing Networks Using MPLS Dataplane Authors : Nagendra Kumar George Swallow Carlos Pignataro Nobo Akiya Sriganesh Kini

Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

2020-02-28 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Robert, I did not read any “accusation” or “attack” in SM’s note, nor anything specifically directed at Bruno, the person, his decision-making, or his character — just a set of question to the AD on potential based on roles and processes. Thanks, — Carlos. PS: There are documents that codify

Re: [spring] New Version Notification for draft-mirsky-spring-bfd-08.txt

2020-02-28 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Dear Greg, > 2020/02/26 午後5:38、Greg Mirsky のメール: > > Dear All, > please find my notes and questions in-lined tagged GIM>>. > > Regards, > Greg > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 12:58 PM Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) > wrote: Refreshing my cache -- since your rep

Re: [spring] [mpls] New Version Notification for draft-mirsky-spring-bfd-00.txt

2017-05-09 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Dear Greg, Cursorily scanning through this, it seems that most concerns raised and comments made about the SR sections of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-0N (with N < 5) apply to your new draft. This is one of those: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mpls/current/msg15860.html — the list arc

Re: [spring] [mpls] New Version Notification for draft-mirsky-spring-bfd-00.txt

2017-05-09 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
mailto:gregimir...@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Carlos, I've decided to re-start the discussion and am interested to hear technical comments to the proposed solution. Regards, Greg On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 8:51 AM, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) mailto:cpign...@cisco.com>> wrote: Dear Greg, C

Re: [spring] [mpls] New Version Notification for draft-mirsky-spring-bfd-00.txt

2017-05-10 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
7110. I viewed the proposal as invitation to technical discussion. Regards, Greg On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) mailto:cpign...@cisco.com>> wrote: Thank you Greg! Since https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mirsky-spring-bfd-00 seems quite similar to the te

Re: [spring] [mpls] New Version Notification for draft-mirsky-spring-bfd-00.txt

2017-05-10 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
mpls-bfd-directed :) Google also seems to be pretty clueless about it. Just curious as you keep using this term in each email :) Thx, R. On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) mailto:cpign...@cisco.com>> wrote: Greg, In the MPLS data plane, FECs are also instantiated thr

Re: [spring] [mpls] New Version Notification for draft-mirsky-spring-bfd-00.txt

2017-05-10 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
y FECs are being defined at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping-02 Hope that helps, — Carlos. PS: As I find this repetitive, this is my last email on the subject. > Regards, > Greg > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) > wrote:

Re: [spring] Requirements towards OAM in Segment Routing network

2017-05-17 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Hi, I do not believe SPRING should work on draft-ietf-spring-sr-oam-requirement. It makes more sense to focus on solutions than these weak and sparse requirements for very diverse set of potential protocols (LSP Ping, BFD, S-BFD, SRv6 OAMs, etc). Thanks, — Carlos. On May 16, 2017, at 4:18 AM

Re: [spring] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping

2017-06-05 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Loa, I am not aware of any IPR that applies to the subject matter in draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping. Thanks, — Carlos. > On Jun 5, 2017, at 3:39 AM, Loa Andersson wrote: > > Working Group, authors, > > We have started to prepare the the draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping for > wglc, prior to

Re: [spring] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-spring-oam-usecase-06

2017-07-01 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
become a significantly larger section, or (more likely) the text needs to be removed. Editorial: Chapter 7 is titled dealing with non-SR environments. Which makes sense. The text then switches to using "pre-SR" instead of "non-SR". I would recommend that all uses

Re: [spring] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-spring-oam-usecase-06

2017-07-01 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
be sent using stale MPLS or IGP routing information. > > As it is necessary to know that the information is stale is order to follow > the > instruction, as is the case with for example convergence events that may be > ongoing at the time of diagnostic measurement. > Agreed. W

Re: [spring] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-spring-oam-usecase-06

2017-07-02 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
There are two uses of pre-SR stil in the document. Otherwise, yes, these address my comments. Yours, Joel On 7/1/17 4:52 PM, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) wrote: Thanks for your review, Joel! Revision -07, just submitted, should address all your concerns and suggestions. Please let us know oth

Re: [spring] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-spring-oam-usecase-06

2017-07-02 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
to a change. However, personally, I do not see the need. > > Minor issues: > > None. > > Nits/editorial comments: > > This document refers to RFC 4379, which has been obsoleted by RFC 8029. It > seems like the references should be updated. > > Indeed. Don

Re: [spring] AD Review of draft-ietf-spring-oam-usecase-06

2017-07-25 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
I'll take care of it. Thanks! Thumb typed by Carlos Pignataro. Excuze typofraphicak errows On Jul 25, 2017, at 18:42, Alvaro Retana (aretana) mailto:aret...@cisco.com>> wrote: Hi! I looked -08 and almost everything looks good to me. The only exception is the result from the co

Re: [spring] AD Review of draft-ietf-spring-oam-usecase-06

2017-07-25 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
enough: for example, rfc7880 should be enough for S-BFD; no need to mention all. I’ll leave this document waiting for the Architecture so we can progress them together. Please update the references when you get a chance, no hurry. Thanks! Alvaro. On 7/1/17, 4:34 PM, "Carlos Pignataro on

Re: [spring] Working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping

2017-08-02 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
om> Senior MPLS Expert l...@pi.nu<mailto:l...@pi.nu> Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 — Carlos Pignataro, car...@cisco.com<mailto:car...@cisco.com> “Sometimes I use big words that I do not fully understand, to make mys

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-26 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
with end-to-end measurements per se. And “SR OAM Use Case” is not intended to be a collection of potential use cases either. Orthogonal to this thread. Thanks, — Carlos Pignataro, car...@cisco.com<mailto:car...@cisco.com> On Nov 16, 2017, at 4:51 AM, Alexander Vain

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-26 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
e ready to discuss how to support these measurements in SR-MPLS. I believe trying to RSVP-TE-ify the path characteristics, or inventing SR-MPLS-TP is not a good idea. Thanks, — Carlos Pignataro, car...@cisco.com<mailto:car...@cisco.com> On Nov 21, 2017, at 1:34 PM, Robert Raszuk mailto:rob...@r

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-26 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
measurements of any kind. * This discussion indicates things other than “ that OAM requirements document is useful”. Thanks, — Carlos Pignataro, car...@cisco.com<mailto:car...@cisco.com> On Nov 16, 2017, at 4:15 AM, Greg Mirsky mailto:gregimir...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Sasha,

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-27 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
perational needs closer to trace route than to mid-point strict accounting. The sentence you quote above is in the context of this. Best, — Carlos. Regards, Greg On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 8:11 PM, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) mailto:cpign...@cisco.com>> wrote: [Sorry for jumping late t

Re: [spring] [mpls] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-mirsky-spring-bfd-03.txt

2017-12-05 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Dear Greg, Since there had been no responses to the few emails you had sent to the three lists (MPLS, SPRING, RTG-BFD) about various versions of this draft, here’s some high-level thoughts. I hope these are clear and useful. In this email you mention BFD as the Target WG, the document file name

Re: [spring] Secdir telechat review of draft-ietf-spring-oam-usecase-09

2017-12-12 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Many thanks Takeshi for your review! We will fix the minor and editorial comments. Thanks! — Carlos Pignataro, car...@cisco.com<mailto:car...@cisco.com> “Sometimes I use big words that I do not fully understand, to make myself sound more photosynthesis." On Dec 12, 2017, at 2:52

Re: [spring] Secdir telechat review of draft-ietf-spring-oam-usecase-09

2017-12-13 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
n is not recommended. : Best regards, — Carlos Pignataro, car...@cisco.com<mailto:car...@cisco.com> “Sometimes I use big words that I do not fully understand, to make myself sound more photosynthesis." On Dec 12, 2017, at 2:52 AM, Takeshi Takahashi mailto:takeshi_takaha..

Re: [spring] New Version Notification for draft-ali-spring-bfd-sr-policy-02.txt

2018-10-25 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
the Thanks, — Carlos Pignataro On Oct 25, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Greg Mirsky mailto:gregimir...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Nagendra, yes, you're correct and I was not, thank you for pointing that out. Indeed, Echo mode, whether BFD or S-BFD, may be used as the test probe to he

Re: [spring] New Version Notification for draft-mirsky-spring-bfd-08.txt

2019-09-10 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
[A very late reply to this email, but since no-one else replied… to add topic diversity to the list.] SPRING chairs, Sending this note only for completeness, and not as indication of interest or support of draft-mirsky-spring-bfd-08.txt. Since draft-mirsky-spring-bfd has no provenance metadata

Re: [spring] Codepoint for OSPFv3 protocol in SPRING LSP-Ping and LSP-Trace

2019-09-11 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
+1. We should have different codepoints for OSPFv2 and OSPFv3. I recall we actually planned to do that not too long ago, but I cannot find the draft on which we split the codepoint. From: "Aissaoui, Mustapha (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)" Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 2:31 AM To: "Ketan Talaulik

Re: [spring] Codepoint for OSPFv3 protocol in SPRING LSP-Ping and LSP-Trace

2019-09-12 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
we go about it? Is this an addendum to the RFC? Mustapha. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2019, at 6:32 AM, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) mailto:cpign...@cisco.com>> wrote: +1. We should have different codepoints for OSPFv2 and OSPFv3. I recall we actually planned to do that not too long ago,

Re: [spring] New Version Notification for draft-mirsky-spring-bfd-08.txt

2019-11-09 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Hello, SPRING chairs, Ditto Re- https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/FzI1bFjYoFza4Ysu9DCOzcWme4I draft-mirsky-spring-bfd-08.txt seems to simply be an attempt to bypass previous reviews by shopping a new WG. Instead of responding to technically show-stopping comments, this text was remo