Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Bdale Garbee
ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Ian Jackson) writes: > Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17"): >> This all needs to change. > > Since we're all geeks perhaps we should try to address a social > problem with a technical solution. > > If I

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17"): > This all needs to change. Since we're all geeks perhaps we should try to address a social problem with a technical solution. If I went and wrote a webform/emailscanning robot which enforced these rules and automaticall

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17"): > I'm afraid that simply isn't good enough. The question should have > been deferred as a matter of course. You shouldn't have suggested > going ahead with it anyway, and the rest of the board should not ha

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Bdale Garbee writes ("Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17"): > ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Ian Jackson) writes: > > Excellent. Can you explain why it wasn't followed in this case ? > > Because I violated it. I apparently dropped the ball on getting the > fi

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Bdale Garbee
ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Ian Jackson) writes: > Joshua D. Drake writes ("Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17"): >> On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 17:00 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > >> > Do you support Resolution 2007-01-16-iwj.5.html ? >> >> I do not have a

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Jimmy Kaplowitz writes ("Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17"): > Please reread the announcement. It explicitly mentioned that there was a > possibility of one or two associated project resolutions being brought up, > where the associated projects in question had been discussed with

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 09:57:51AM -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > And actually now that I look at the meeting announcement, it stated > there were no motions and the agenda says that privoxy was up for > discussion. So I guess I am confused as to why there was a vote at all. Please reread the ann

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 17:38 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Joshua D. Drake writes ("Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17"): > > On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 17:00 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > (b) you agree with me that there should be more transparency > > > and fe

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Joshua D. Drake writes ("Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17"): > On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 17:00 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > (b) you agree with me that there should be more transparency > > and feel that in future a different process with greater > > trans

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread MJ Ray
Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > I recall a motion that said we should discuss on private (I could be off > > my rocker) but the thing is... the *only* people that can do anything > > about what you are arguing is contributing members. E.g; they are the > > ones that can vote. So

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 17:00 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Joshua D. Drake writes ("Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17"): > (b) you agree with me that there should be more transparency > and feel that in future a different process with greater > transparency would be bet

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
MJ Ray writes ("Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17"): > Just to refresh members' memory, the email about Privoxy to > spi-private dated Fri Aug 15 22:04:19 UTC 2008 proposed:- > > The first liason would be [Fabian Keil]. The liason can be changed >by any of the Proj

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Joshua D. Drake writes ("Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17"): > On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 13:50 -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > > > > [Ian Jackson:] > > > > > > For other kinds of resolutions there are of course other isomorphic > > > > > >

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 13:50 -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > I don't know honestly but what I do know is that there are many > > contributing members that do not bother to read let alone subscribe to > > -general. > > It's easy to paint the bikeshed of what list to give notice to. It > would be

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 08:42:45AM -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > I recall a motion that said we should discuss on private (I could be off > my rocker) but the thing is... the *only* people that can do anything > about what you are arguing is contributing members. E.g; they are the > ones that can

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Joshua D. Drake wrote: > On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 16:27 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Joshua D. Drake writes ("Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17"): > > > On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 10:13 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > > For other kinds of resolutions there are of

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 16:27 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Joshua D. Drake writes ("Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17"): > > On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 10:13 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > For other kinds of resolutions there are of course other isomorphic > > > problems

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Joshua D. Drake writes ("Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17"): > On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 10:13 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > For other kinds of resolutions there are of course other isomorphic > > problems. That is why THE MEMBERSHIP MUST BE GIVEN THE CHANCE TO > > COMME

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 10:13 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > MJ Ray writes ("Meeting log for 2008-12-17"): > > [item 7.1, Resolution 2008.12.17.bg.1 - Privoxy as associated > project] > For other kinds of resolutions there are of course other isomorphic > problems. That i

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread MJ Ray
Ian Jackson wrote: [...] > The membership should have the chance to review all of the important > content of a resolution beforehand (unless it's an emergency of > course). That _includes_ stuff like the people we recognise as being > in charge. [...] Just to refresh members' memory, the email a

Re: Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
MJ Ray writes ("Meeting log for 2008-12-17"): > [item 7.1, Resolution 2008.12.17.bg.1 - Privoxy as associated project] > > luk_: I think the three folks listed in the resolution are the > three primary commiters. privoxy.org is the web site for the project, > I believ

Meeting log for 2008-12-17

2008-12-18 Thread MJ Ray
Contrary to my impression from the announced agenda that it would be a rather short and disappointing meeting, a load of late business was added to "Items up for discussion" which made for interesting reading, including a Privoxy resolution which appeared just before the meeting (good to have some