Well, I missed that point (wrote that mail before my first coffee
that day). OK, but if that list isn't filtered server-side I need
to do so (with the same result) or let SPAM in. At least posting
should be restricted to list members.
Would filtering based only on headers and using external databa
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Moncur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 05 November 2002 10:23
> To: Daniel Quinlan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Well written spam advertising how to spam
>
> Corrollary: If they DON'T see something that has
> "JS" == Jan Schreckenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JS> Hi,
JS> why is this list not filtered on the list server? It's open to
JS> post for everyone. Should not every list like that be filtered?
How exactly do you propose discussing spam and spam techniques without
examples?
Lists that *
>why is this list not filtered on the list server? It's open to post for
everyone. Should not every list
>like that be filtered?
Greetings Jan:
Filtering this list would somewhat inhibit keyword discussions wouldn't
it? As mentioning keywords in a post would trigger SA.
Quentin Krengel
> 99.99% of all spammers aren't that bright. They see something that
> has an "@" in the middle of it and they'll try to send mail to it...
> forever.
Corrollary: If they DON'T see something that has an "@" in the middle of it,
they'll make up an address and send mail to that forever.
(Just fini
Hi,
why is this list not filtered on the list server? It's open to
post for everyone. Should not every list like that be filtered?
cu,
Jan
Jonathan M. Manning wrote:
--On Sunday, November 03, 2002 9:25 AM -0800 John Rudd
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
And the other side of the coin is ... how man
Jonathan M. Manning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On the other hand, they do know that there is no spam filtering on the
> server side of this list, and lots of people have it whitelisted.
99.99% of all spammers aren't that bright. They see something that
has an "@" in the middle of it and they
--On Sunday, November 03, 2002 9:25 AM -0800 John Rudd
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
And the other side of the coin is ... how many spam messages (not reports
from list members talking about a spam they caught) have you seen come
through SAtalk? I have yet to see one.
Really? You must have missed
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On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, John Rudd wrote:
> > > Jan Korger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > Therefore I suggest adding a rule with a negative score assigned matching
> > > > spam reports in message bodies. This is especially usefull for SAtalk,
> > > >
> From: Jan Korger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> On 2 Nov 2002, Daniel Quinlan wrote:
>
> > Jan Korger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Therefore I suggest adding a rule with a negative score assigned matching
> > > spam reports in message bodies. This is especially usefull for SAtalk,
> > > better than
Daniel Quinlan wrote:
>> I think that might be *way* too enticing for spammers. The solution is
>> to just exempt SAtalk and other spam-related mailing lists from spam
>> filtering.
Jan Korger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> That's not a good solution, it's a workaround. I understand the
> distin
Jan Korger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-02 22:04:49 +0100]:
> > Anyway, the spam that Bob forwarded was going to be marked
> > as spam no matter how you handled the SA headers! He said it was
> > assigned a score of 42.5 when he originally received it. 42.5.
>
> He said so, but this must have in
Martin Radford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-02 20:27:54 +]:
> At Sat Nov 2 19:31:56 2002, Christian Salzer wrote:
> >
> > Just wondering, why SA-Talk mails, which contains "quoted" spam are
> > reported to razor?
>
> People auto-reporting to Razor based solely on the SA score, rather
> than
--On Saturday, November 02, 2002 4:21 PM -0500 Theo Van Dinter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 10:04:49PM +0100, Jan Korger wrote:
BTW: Is there a simple command stripping the SA results from a mail as
done by 'spamassassin -r'. I want to reprocess my false
positives/negatives
Jan Korger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Therefore I suggest adding a rule with a negative score assigned matching
> spam reports in message bodies. This is especially usefull for SAtalk,
> better than whitelisting as the latter one would also all spam sent to the
> list address to pass. (This is
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 10:04:49PM +0100, Jan Korger wrote:
> BTW: Is there a simple command stripping the SA results from a mail as
> done by 'spamassassin -r'. I want to reprocess my false
> positives/negatives on a regular basis to see whether changed rules will
> better SA. I reckon it's not a
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On 2 Nov 2002, Daniel Quinlan wrote:
> Jan Korger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Therefore I suggest adding a rule with a negative score assigned matching
> > spam reports in message bodies. This is especially usefull for SAtalk,
> > better than whit
At Sat Nov 2 19:31:56 2002, Christian Salzer wrote:
>
> Just wondering, why SA-Talk mails, which contains "quoted" spam are
> reported to razor?
People auto-reporting to Razor based solely on the SA score, rather
than actually verifying whether or not the message really is spam
first.
Martin
--Am Samstag, 2. November 2002 10:29 -0700 Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
schrieb:
X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=15.2 required=5.0
tests=ASCII_FORM_ENTRY,BIG_BUCKS,BULK_EMAIL,CHECK_OR_MONEY_ORDER,
CLICK_BELOW,COMPLETELY_FREE,FINANCIAL,FREE_MONEY,
KNOWN_MAILING_LIST,NO_COST,NO_EXPERIEN
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On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Jan Korger wrote:
> I'm thinking of something linke
>
> body SA_REPORT_START /SPAM:\s-+ Start SpamAssassin results -+/
> body SA_REPORT_END /SPAM:\s-+ End SpamAssassin results -+/
> body SA_REPORT_LINE /SPAM:/
> body SA_REPORT_C
ote:
> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:29:36 -0700
> From: Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [SAtalk] Well written spam advertising how to spam
>
> SPAM: Start SpamAssassin results --
> SPAM: This mail is pr
This piece of spam I found simply amazing. It is well written. The
author appears to be a very intelligent marketer. But his target
audience is the newbie spammer! As well written as it is I am sure he
will sucker more people over to the dark side.
This message was trapped by a friend and forw
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