RE: [SAtalk] SPAM related, but not SPAMASSASSIN question

2002-10-10 Thread Steve Thomas
| I haven't found it yet. I'm pretty sure the discussion against it was in | O'Reilly's "TCP/IP Network Administration". I've browsed through it in my I've got that one and their DNS/BIND book at home - I'll glance through them tonight. | I had this problem at a place I consult for. They adv

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM related, but not SPAMASSASSIN question

2002-10-10 Thread Terry Poperszky
This goes back to the original discussion about why the mails where being directed to the domain A record, but at the ISP's request we have put dummy MX records of mail. in the zones and then assigned those hosts the ip of 127.0.0.1, appears to be working quite well the spammers can send mail to t

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM related, but not SPAMASSASSIN question

2002-10-10 Thread Matt Simerson
First, there's no DNS RFC (yes, I've read them) that states that putting an A record on a domain.tld is wrong. So, you're most welcome to do so, if you so desire. However, be warned that doing so as regular practice is like swimming with piranas. You can do it, but it isn't necessarily wise.

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM related, but not SPAMASSASSIN question

2002-10-10 Thread listuser
I haven't found it yet. I'm pretty sure the discussion against it was in O'Reilly's "TCP/IP Network Administration". I've browsed through it in my spare time and didn't find it. The worst problem with this is when users don't know you, say FTP server's address and give domain.tld a whirl. It m

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM related, but not SPAMASSASSIN question

2002-10-08 Thread Steve Thomas
| IIRC, I recall an arguement that strongly says you aren't supposed to put | an A on a domain. I forget what the main reasons were though. I'd be interested in finding out. I typically put an A record on 'domain.tld', then CNAME the 'www' host to it. That way, a person can type "domain.tld" or

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM related, but not SPAMASSASSIN question

2002-10-08 Thread listuser
One of the many reasons I never put an A record on a domain name. I had a hell of a conversion at an ISP I consult with when they moved from a one server to many server setup. Previously they'd advertised domain.tld for *everything*; MX, www, POP, SMTP, you name it. Everything was domain.tld. T

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM related, but not SPAMASSASSIN question

2002-10-08 Thread Mike Burger
It's a normal behavior. If you do not have a specific MX record for the domain, the mail servers will look to the A record for the domain. So, if www.domain.com has the same A record as domain.com, or if domain.com is CNAME'd to www.domain.com, than that system will receive the mail for doma

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM related, but not SPAMASSASSIN question

2002-10-08 Thread Terry Poperszky
: [SAtalk] SPAM related, but not SPAMASSASSIN question In the absense of MX records, MTAs try the A record if it exists (it's a "fake" "MX 0" record). So you probably have an A or CNAME for "domain.com" to your webserver, which means the mail goes to your ISP n

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM related, but not SPAMASSASSIN question

2002-10-08 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 08:07:11AM -0600, Terry Poperszky wrote: > I maintain about 20 different domain registrations, only a couple of > which receive emails (At least legitimate ones). One domain that had > been receiving emails and was now defunct, was still receiving hundreds > of SPAM mails p

[SAtalk] SPAM related, but not SPAMASSASSIN question

2002-10-08 Thread Terry Poperszky
Title: SPAM related, but not SPAMASSASSIN question If there is a better list for this, please feel free to direct me to it. I maintain about 20 different domain registrations, only a couple of which receive emails (At least legitimate ones). One domain that had been receiving emails and was