RE: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-27 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, [apologies for this being so far off-topic] On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Peter P. Benac wrote: > And this lack of response is due to what??? Lazy, stupid, apathetic, incompetent, or ambivalent members of the law enforcement and ISP community? Insufficient network diagnostic and security tools, maki

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-25 Thread Richard Ahlquist
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 11:05 AM To: 'SATalk list' Subject: RE: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd) And this lack of response is due to what??? When I worked for Cisco one of Cisco's customers detected a potential hacker to his system. That custome

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-25 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:12 PM -0700 Justin Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yeah -- a GPG-signed, private NNTP network would work great. Just needs someone to code it all up ;) Jesting aside, you could start a new newsgroup for this purpose, with people posting the data to the new

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-25 Thread Peter P. Benac
'SATalk list' > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd) > > > > > > > "Peter P. Benac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OR worse they'll attack SourceForge!!! > > Yes Peter, that is the strategy. > >

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-25 Thread Robin Lynn Frank
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 25 September 2003 07:12 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > "Peter P. Benac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OR worse they'll attack SourceForge!!! > > Yes Peter, that is the strategy. > > Rather than having the distribution of this information be

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-25 Thread wrolf . courtney
"Peter P. Benac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OR worse they'll attack SourceForge!!! Yes Peter, that is the strategy. Rather than having the distribution of this information being a cottage industry, go for the protection of our peers. I do believe that if whoever this spam friendly DDOSer is

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-24 Thread Justin Mason
David B Funk writes: >On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Daniel Bird wrote: > >> A P2P DNSBL? interesting. I've also thought about this a little since >[snip..] >> DNSBL could learn from that seed other DNSBLS, and replicate the data, >> and then (maybe?) do the RBL lookups locally. >> >> Obviously, the file (z

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-24 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 23:13:19 +0100 Daniel Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Forrest Aldrich wrote: > > > A new approach to DNSBL might be considered, where there is a > > peer-to-peer sharing (authentication, scoring whatever) that mirrors > > content -- something of that nature, whereby t

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-24 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Daniel Bird wrote: > A P2P DNSBL? interesting. I've also thought about this a little since [snip..] > DNSBL could learn from that seed other DNSBLS, and replicate the data, > and then (maybe?) do the RBL lookups locally. > > Obviously, the file (zone) transfers involved would

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-24 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:13 PM +0100 Daniel Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A P2P DNSBL? interesting. I've also thought about this a little since the > death of Monkeys but also have no idea about how this would be implimented, > but certainly the model of something like direct conn

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-24 Thread Daniel Bird
Forrest Aldrich wrote: A new approach to DNSBL might be considered, where there is a peer-to-peer sharing (authentication, scoring whatever) that mirrors content -- something of that nature, whereby the hackers would basically have to DDos the entire internet to prevent its use. Not sure h

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-24 Thread Peter P. Benac
OR worse they'll attack SourceForge!!! > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 16:04 > To: SATalk list > Cc: SATalk list > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] SPAM

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-24 Thread wrolf . courtney
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Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-24 Thread Forrest Aldrich
A new approach to DNSBL might be considered, where there is a peer-to-peer sharing (authentication, scoring whatever) that mirrors content -- something of that nature, whereby the hackers would basically have to DDos the entire internet to prevent its use. Not sure how such a framework could

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-23 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Tuesday, September 23, 2003 3:07 PM -0500 Bob Apthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First Osirusoft, now monkeys.com. Which DNSBL is next? When do the > crosshairs move to SpamAssassin? Why are these systems not available through lots of secondaries, with a long expire time, so a DDoS can't

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-23 Thread Covington, Chris
You guys are forgetting that dnsbl.sorbs.net has also been taken down after a DDoS. One too many... Chris --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _

[SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-23 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, Just seen on SPAM-L: Apparently Ron's proxy honeynet hit a nerve in the hardcore spammer community. First Osirusoft, now monkeys.com. Which DNSBL is next? When do the crosshairs move to SpamAssassin? And when will the lawyers and Feds visit the asleep-at-the-wheel instituions and ISPs hosti