At 11:29 10/06/03 -0700, Ben Johansen wrote:
Ok,
Not to start a flame war, but have 2 NT Servers Pentium 233 that have
been running for years, 24/7. There was a stretch from 96 to mid 99 that
they ran without being touched.
In which case they would have been vulnerable to a load of security
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 10:42:56AM -0500, Chris Barnes is rumored to have said:
>
> So unless you didn't apply any security patches (gasp), I'm sure your 2
> NT servers were not continuously running from 96 to 99.
>
Speaking of not applying security patches, it seems that even the mighty Microso
Ben Johansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok,
>
> Not to start a flame war, but have 2 NT Servers Pentium 233 that have
> been running for years, 24/7. There was a stretch from 96 to mid 99
> that they ran without being touched.
>
> I don't get this argument
It's the definition of "uptime". In th
nteresting. Perhaps they will use a *nix scrubber.
That would be funny as hell.
Chris
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> On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 03:37:12PM -0400, Shayne Lebrun is
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> >
> > > The *only* way to pull that off is to tota
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> They are more of an annoyance and can easily be thwarted with
> a compotent admin that keeps up with his se
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> Guess RAV's slogan will change to "Worry less! MICROSOFT IS WATCHING".
Too late, MSN and the butterfly claim that.
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> I use MS as the operating system only. All Other services are 3rd party
> software
That goes a long ways. Seems every time you install an update to an MS
application, it touches something deep in the kernel and
> They are more of an annoyance and can easily be thwarted with
> a compotent admin that keeps up with his security updates.
> It's the inside jobs that are the kickers. Those are the
> serious threat. It's all fun. :)
I think that's the long and short of it right there. Any OS can be secur
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Steve Thomas wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 03:37:12PM -0400, Shayne Lebrun is rumored to have said:
> >
> > > The *only* way to pull that off is to totally ignore security updates
> > > (and the subsequent reboot). No thanks. :)
> >
> > Yes, and for an internal machine,
On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 03:37:12PM -0400, Shayne Lebrun is rumored to have said:
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> > The *only* way to pull that off is to totally ignore security updates
> > (and the subsequent reboot). No thanks. :)
>
> Yes, and for an internal machine, properly firewalled and segmented from the
> public in
You'd be amazed at what you can install without rebooting.
True, most MS software tries to reboot the machine for you because heck,
that's just easier than doing it the right way.
After installing something, if I really don't want to reboot, I just look in
the reg at the pendingfilerename ops and
Hey...maybe Microsoft should start selling SUVs. "Where will you go
today?" will get the same answer: nowhere adventurous, and I'll
probably get into an accident.
Sounds like a typical day driving into the Silicon Valley these days.. ;)
: Microsoft buys out RAV
You are blessed
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Ok,
Not to start a flame war, but have 2
> The only reason Microsoft OS' are perceived as being so insecure
> (well, they do have their faults) are because of the large installed
> base. When a vulnerability is found, because of all the machines
> running it, the impact is felt more.
I don't suppose anything like CodeRed comes to mind a
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> Aaron wrote:
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> >>Not to start a flame war, but have 2 NT
Heh, didn't take David long...
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> Just
You are blessed
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Ok,
Not to start a flame war, but have 2 NT Servers
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Aaron wrote:
Not to start a flame war, but have 2 NT Servers Pentium 233
that have been running for years, 24/7. There was a stretch
from 96 to mid 99 that they ran without being touched.
I second that sentiment. I've had Win servers that ran and ran and ran for
ages it seemed.
The *only*
before Novell sold
theirs.
Regards,
Pete
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Based on what? Fr
--On Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:59 AM -0700 Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Not to start a flame war, but have 2 NT Servers Pentium 233
that have been running for years, 24/7. There was a stretch
from 96 to mid 99 that they ran without being touched.
I second that sentiment. I've had Win serve
Ben Johansen wrote:
Ok,
Not to start a flame war, but have 2 NT Servers Pentium 233 that have
been running for years, 24/7. There was a stretch from 96 to mid 99 that
they ran without being touched.
I don't get this argument
Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
Microsoft itself opened up th
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> Not to start a flame war, but have 2 NT Servers Pentium 233
> that have been running for years, 24/7. There was a stretch
> from 96 to mid 99 that they ran without being touched.
I second that sentiment. I've had Win servers that ran and ran and ran for
ages it seemed.
> I don't get this ar
On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 12:25:20PM -0600, Benjamin A. Shelton wrote:
> Not according to Novell. These are worth a read if you're curious.
>
> http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2003/05/pr03033.html
> http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2003/06/pr03036.html
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> Probably because Microsoft has joined forces with SCO over their issue
with
> Commercial Linux Users. From preliminary reports it seems SCO may actually
> have a valid case.
Not according to Novell. These are worth a read if you're curious.
http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2003/05/pr03
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> Linux is about to be assimilated, resistance is futile
>
> M$Linux
But how do you rewrite all those BSOD's into a non-GUI format?
Our data center is 100% *nix. (Except Co-Lo machines). Bragging rights were
"T
> Linux is about to be assimilated, resistance is futile
>
> M$Linux
>
> ;-)
>
Or perhaps they are planning on switching their e-mail gateways to a more
reliable *nix solution and need the protection for their internal Win32
boxen :-)
After all, read this part from the press release:
> Customers
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Why would Microsoft be interested in an antivirus program used primarily
on Linux?
I can't help but think that this is a bad, bad thing
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