Re: [SAtalk] Re: [AMaViS-user] SA 2.50 and AWL

2002-12-23 Thread Vivek Khera
> "MM" == Mark Martinec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MM> | Is there any way to enable SA auto whitelist? Or is it S.O.L. MM> You can turn it on, but it will always see only one a.w. list, MM> namely the one belonging to used amavis (or vscan) MM> - as things stand now. Some special AWL handli

Re: [SAtalk] Re: [AMaViS-user] SA 2.50 and AWL

2002-12-22 Thread Tom Allison
Mark Martinec wrote: Tom, (and Hamish), (thanks for your private mail, sounde very useful, I'll reply to it separately) (btw, did you know that RFC2822 explicitly states that it is valid to have more than one address in the From field! E.g. a secretary (Sender) mailing a scientific paper of two

Re: [SAtalk] Re: [AMaViS-user] SA 2.50 and AWL

2002-12-21 Thread Mark Martinec
Tom, (and Hamish), (thanks for your private mail, sounde very useful, I'll reply to it separately) | I use HEADER and not Envelope. There is always one FROM address | in either case and that is what you are really looking for when | you are whitelisting/blacklisting. Just a quick side remark

Re: [SAtalk] Re: [AMaViS-user] SA 2.50 and AWL

2002-12-21 Thread Justin Mason
Mark Martinec said: > Although Bayesian works best when it is trained for a particular > user, it is still _very_ useful with a single site-wide database. > Given a larger set of ham/spam messages to train, the lack > of specialization can be compensated to some degree. > > AWL on the other hand

Re: [SAtalk] Re: [AMaViS-user] SA 2.50 and AWL

2002-12-21 Thread Hamish Marson
Mark Martinec wrote: Tom, | > Turning on SA auto whitelists is presently not useful | > with amavisd-new. There is a fundamental problem in that | > SpamAssassin is geared to work fine with one-recipient- | > -at-a-time messages, and amavisd-new tries to process | > multi-recipient messages in o

Re: [SAtalk] Re: [AMaViS-user] SA 2.50 and AWL

2002-12-21 Thread Hamish Marson
Tom Allison wrote: Mark Martinec wrote: Tom, | I'm trying to get SA 2.50 working under the amavisd-new release. | It's working, I think. At least according to the logs. | Between the two, there is a marked increase in performance. | Very nice! | But there is no WhiteList. | Any suggestions o

Re: [SAtalk] Re: [AMaViS-user] SA 2.50 and AWL

2002-12-20 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 08:21:35PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: > I've heard differently from the bogofilter mailing list. I > personally am starting to conclude that bayesian filtering is very > difficult to get working correctly. It is too easy to skew the > statistics and therefore pass the fi

[SAtalk] Re: [AMaViS-user] SA 2.50 and AWL

2002-12-20 Thread Tom Allison
Mark Martinec wrote: Tom, - AWL is supposed to be per-recipient. Each recipient has its own automatically updated whitelist. My assumption is this: Blacklists against spammers are universal. - amavisd-new has no way of telling SA what the envelope recipients are (SA can only guess that

[SAtalk] Re: [AMaViS-user] SA 2.50 and AWL

2002-12-20 Thread Mark Martinec
Tom, | > Turning on SA auto whitelists is presently not useful | > with amavisd-new. There is a fundamental problem in that | > SpamAssassin is geared to work fine with one-recipient- | > -at-a-time messages, and amavisd-new tries to process | > multi-recipient messages in one go if at all possibl

[SAtalk] Re: [AMaViS-user] SA 2.50 and AWL

2002-12-20 Thread Tom Allison
Mark Martinec wrote: Tom, | I'm trying to get SA 2.50 working under the amavisd-new release. | It's working, I think. At least according to the logs. | Between the two, there is a marked increase in performance. | Very nice! | But there is no WhiteList. | Any suggestions on how to get this turn

[SAtalk] Re: [AMaViS-user] SA 2.50 and AWL

2002-12-20 Thread Mark Martinec
Tom, | I'm trying to get SA 2.50 working under the amavisd-new release. | It's working, I think. At least according to the logs. | Between the two, there is a marked increase in performance. | Very nice! | But there is no WhiteList. | Any suggestions on how to get this turned on? Turning on SA