Re: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens,ROT-13 etc.

2003-09-07 Thread Justin Mason
Yorkshire Dave writes: >I don't know if I should be adding these incomplete ciphers to >detoken.pl, they're useful to a lot of people before they're complete. >Any opinions? I'd say so -- you could leave the unknowns as ".", and count the dots once the RE is generated; if there's too many (ie. 3

Re: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens,ROT-13 etc.

2003-09-07 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 21:03, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 01:29:52AM +0100, Yorkshire Dave wrote: > > > 0= > > 0=Q A quick roundup. Can anyone fill any gaps? 2queers cipher -- in html comment plain = abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789-_.@ coded = dO,9F_ [EMAIL

Re: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens,ROT-13 etc.

2003-09-06 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 01:29:52AM +0100, Yorkshire Dave wrote: > > 0= 0=Q -- Randomly Generated Tagline: It's not easy to juggle a pregnant wife and a troubled child, but somehow I managed to squeeze in 8 hours of TV a day. -- Homer Simpson Lisa's First Wor

Re: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens,ROT-13 etc.

2003-08-26 Thread Fred I-IS.COM
Hello, I found a new set of listwashing tokens, all are located inside HTML comments. I created the following transform matrix: Left side is what the letter should be, the right side is the transformed text. An example looks like: Message sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] would look like: a=d b=O c=, d

Re: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens,ROT-13 etc.

2003-08-20 Thread AltGrendel
On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 20:02, Justin Mason wrote: > Yorkshire Dave writes: > > As long as it's worth blocking on it, I'll keep working at ciphers. If > > all the spammers start using real encryption I'll look for another way. > > I'm just taking advantage of a stupid subset of spammers while I can.

Re: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens,ROT-13 etc.

2003-08-18 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 05:16, Daniel Quinlan wrote: > Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Wouldn't the Bayes tests be just the thing for these since it's already > > adaptive? > > Yes, but there's a difference between one good token and a surefire rule > that catches a significant amount

Re: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens, ROT-13 etc.

2003-08-18 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Wouldn't the Bayes tests be just the thing for these since it's already > adaptive? Yes, but there's a difference between one good token and a surefire rule that catches a significant amount of spam. > What I can see happening, though, is spammers start

Re: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens, ROT-13 etc.

2003-08-18 Thread Justin Mason
Yorkshire Dave writes: > As long as it's worth blocking on it, I'll keep working at ciphers. If > all the spammers start using real encryption I'll look for another way. > I'm just taking advantage of a stupid subset of spammers while I can. Yep. Bear in mind, there's a pretty large subset there

Re: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens,ROT-13 etc.

2003-08-18 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 20:03, Kai MacTane wrote: > At 8/18/03 09:35 AM , Yorkshire Dave wrote: > > >I've had people sending me listwashing tokens for > >months, and to date I've only seen 2 which I couldn't get anywhere with. > >I suspect blowfish or similar is beyond the ability of some of them, >

Re: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens, ROT-13 etc.

2003-08-18 Thread Kai MacTane
At 8/18/03 09:35 AM , Yorkshire Dave wrote: I've had people sending me listwashing tokens for months, and to date I've only seen 2 which I couldn't get anywhere with. I suspect blowfish or similar is beyond the ability of some of them, they can't use what they can't understand, which is why we're

Re: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens,ROT-13 etc.

2003-08-18 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 14:38, Brian White wrote: > > > If anyone's interested, my part-complete document on listwashing tokens > > > is at http://www.wot.no-ip.com/show.me/Projects/Listwashing_Tokens/ and > > > the rule generator itself is http://www.wot.no-ip.com/cgi-bin/detoken.pl > > > > Excell

Re: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens, ROT-13 etc.

2003-08-18 Thread Brian White
> > If anyone's interested, my part-complete document on listwashing tokens > > is at http://www.wot.no-ip.com/show.me/Projects/Listwashing_Tokens/ and > > the rule generator itself is http://www.wot.no-ip.com/cgi-bin/detoken.pl > > Excellent analysis! Also we're pretty sure figuring out some wa

Re[2]: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens, ROT-13 etc.

2003-08-17 Thread Abigail Marshall
YD> if I really wanted it I would YD> just subscribe abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz@ and have the spammer supply YD> me with a free key in every message but I don't think that's quite fair YD> play. You are worried about "fair play" with spammers The real irony is that you are worried about "fair

Re: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens,ROT-13 etc.

2003-08-15 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 20:03, Justin Mason wrote: > Henry Stern writes: > > > Yorkshire Dave writes: > > > > My original intention was to write an eval to run through the range of > > > > caesar ciphers and import a list of substitution cipher codes, but it's > > > > too slow (probably because I wri

RE: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens, ROT-13 etc.

2003-08-15 Thread Henry Stern
> Yorkshire Dave writes: > > My original intention was to write an eval to run through the range of > > caesar ciphers and import a list of substitution cipher codes, but it's > > too slow (probably because I write very poor perl), so here's the next > > best thing. > > > > I've thrown together a l

RE: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens, ROT-13 etc.

2003-08-15 Thread Henry Stern
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: August 15, 2003 4:04 PM > To: Henry Stern > Cc: 'Justin Mason'; 'Yorkshire Dave'; 'spamassassin list'; 'devel list' > Subject: Re: [SAdev] Re: [S

Re: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens, ROT-13 etc.

2003-08-15 Thread Justin Mason
Henry Stern writes: > > Yorkshire Dave writes: > > > My original intention was to write an eval to run through the range of > > > caesar ciphers and import a list of substitution cipher codes, but it's > > > too slow (probably because I write very poor perl), so here's the next > > > best thing. >