Hello,
I found a new set of listwashing tokens, all are located inside HTML
comments.

I created the following transform matrix:
Left side is what the letter should be, the right side is the transformed
text.

An example looks like:
Message sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
would look like: <!--_ssi9szd[80,sz-->

a=d
b=O
c=,
d=9
e=F
f=_
g=
h=$
i=[
j=u
k=@
l=S
m=z
n=8
o=s
p=
q=
r=A
s==
t=3
u=n
v=N
w=?
x=
y=R
z=
0=
1=
2=
3=
4=
5=
6=
7=
8=
9=
-=Z
_=P
.=0
@=i

Anyone have a name for this one or see it before?

Frederic Tarasevicius
Internet Information Services, Inc.



Yorkshire Dave wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 14:38, Brian White wrote:
>>>> If anyone's interested, my part-complete document on listwashing
>>>> tokens is at
>>>> http://www.wot.no-ip.com/show.me/Projects/Listwashing_Tokens/ and
>>>> the rule generator itself is
>>>> http://www.wot.no-ip.com/cgi-bin/detoken.pl
>>>
>>> Excellent analysis!  Also we're pretty sure figuring out some way to
>>> catch these inside SpamAssassin, automatically (ie. without the
>>> prior rule-building) would be very nifty.
>>
>> So that's what those are!  I was wondering.
>>
>> Wouldn't the Bayes tests be just the thing for these since it's
>> already adaptive?
>
> The reason I started out collecting ciphers months ago wasn't to block
> spam but to identify that there are listwashing tokens in the message,
> to make a spam cleaning utility for reporting purposes. Then I
> realised bayes doesn't seem to be catching some of them, they're a
> surefire spamsign which tends to occur more often in lower scoring
> spam, and there are people who want the rules.
>
>> What I can see happening, though, is spammers start using a "salt"
>> so that the entire string is effectively random.
>
> Some already seem to use a lot stronger crypto than others, I have a
> file full of uncracked. Even with those, the majority are still fairly
> simple ciphers, they look like the sort of thing a 12 year old might
> devise, shifts that change every time they hit a non-alphanumeric,
> things like that. I've had people sending me listwashing tokens for
> months, and to date I've only seen 2 which I couldn't get anywhere
> with. I suspect blowfish or similar is beyond the ability of some of
> them, they can't use what they can't understand, which is why we're
> seeing variants on classic ciphers. Think about it, if you were
> trying to hide information in a message, would a simple shift even
> get considered?
>
> If the spammers adapt, they'll be doing it in their time and at their
> expense, so at least it's cost them something. I'm all for making them
> waste their time and money. If it doesn't do anything else at least it
> keeps the pressure on them.
>
>>
>>                                           Brian
>>                                  ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
>>      There's no healthy way to mess with the line between wrong and
>> right.
> --
> Yorkshire Dave



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