Re: [SAtalk] SA for IM?

2003-12-11 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
AOL IM Maybe its an ichat only thing -- because everyone i know running iChat gets 10+ AOL IM spams a day. I'm averaging 15. On Dec 11, 2003, at 1:00 PM, Evan Platt wrote: --On Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:52 PM -0500 Jonathan Vanasco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyone think o

[SAtalk] SA for IM?

2003-12-11 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
Anyone think of trying to do this yet? Hijacking ims and routing them through SA... I get way too many spam ims every day. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills. Sig

Re: [SAtalk] [OT] What is next step?

2003-10-24 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
Find out where they live. Keep a registered databse of names + addresses online. Advertise on google w/spam as a keyword "kill a spammer hitlist.com" Eventually, some nut will show up at someone's house with a baseball bat or explosives. You'll totally skirt any accessory charges if it goes to

Re: [SAtalk] Is there a way to reject a message before it arrives?

2003-10-09 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
Check the archives -- there may be a sendmail hook to do this. I know for a fact you can do this with Exim via the sa-exim patch. (sa-exim.sf.net) A similar postfix project was discussed a month or so back. I believe a sendmail one was too. On Thursday, October 9, 2003, at 10:56 AM, Fabiano

Re: [SAtalk] OT: anti-spam email-only host

2003-10-08 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
Nope. None of those. It was for 1 person, cost like $25 a year, and left people enroll a domain then manage multiple aliases to handle overspammed addresses. Can't remember the name -- the closest thing to it i've found is simplicato On Tuesday, October 7, 2003, at 09:40 PM, Larry Gilson wro

[SAtalk] OT: anti-spam email-only host

2003-10-07 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
I remember seeing a while back an anti-spam email-only host. It had a crazy name, and worked like this: you have your mx point to their machine, and webmail/imap handles multiple aliases so you can track/monitor/disable it was something like $25 a month, including domain -- anyone remember thi

Re: [SAtalk] Re: The Verisign folly

2003-09-17 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
If that's the case, why not right Jerry Fallwell a letter about Verisign's unchristian activities, and get the bible belt on their ass? I'd like to see them respond to a camera crew and evangelist asking them: "Exactly why do I see a verisign ad when I visit ___" Fill _ with: v

Re: [SAtalk] Rule Help Needed

2003-09-02 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
well, that will match that string in the body.. but it should also match not having an attachment to return true. On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, at 01:39 PM, Chris Santerre wrote: -Original Message- From: Jonathan Vanasco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 1

[SAtalk] Rule Help Needed

2003-09-02 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
variant on sobig rules, I'd like to have a rule for messages without attachments, if their body contains "See the attached file for details" The messages are multipart with one text/plain part this would match sobig messages where the virus has failed to attach itself ---

Re: [SAtalk] New trick

2003-06-25 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
How can you suggest incorporating a PGP into the ruleset though? You can check if its a valid length, but then spammers will use valid PGP sigs. You can't pointify all PGP sigs, because lots of valid mail is signed w/a PGP So you can either: Remove the negative points for PGP sigs -- essential

Re: [SAtalk] OT- "greylisting" - opinions from the SA community?

2003-06-23 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
maybe there could be some sort of compromise within the mta system... unknown senders are 'rejected', or at least appear to be -- in all actuality they are delivered as normal (run though filters though). outgoing email addresses/domains are whitelisted from fake reject messages. retry attemp

Re: [SAtalk] nuke spam not tag?

2003-06-23 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
sort of. first you scan/tag it... then: if you're processing post-mta, send it to /dev/null if you're processing pre-mta, have the mta reject/discard mail above a threshold On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 03:33 AM, Martin Sarajervi wrote: Is there no way to nuke the spam instead of tagging it?

Re: [SAtalk] question: HTML_WEB_BUGS

2003-06-20 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
oh.. so its still in there, but as a modified, improved, form -- not completely taken out. thats what i thought was posted. On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 03:11 PM, Daniel Quinlan wrote: Jonathan Vanasco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Any reason for this, or are we to use custom rules for th

Re: [SAtalk] Re: spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how

2003-06-20 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
do you have an example of a dummy message? just curious. On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 11:24 AM, Luis HernĂ¡n Otegui wrote: Do you have any proof about that last point? I don't think spammers ever examine bounces, or do any sort of management on their lists whatsoever. It would simply add to the

Re: [SAtalk] question: HTML_WEB_BUGS

2003-06-20 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
Any reason for this, or are we to use custom rules for that? On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 10:45 PM, Daniel Quinlan wrote: Jonathan Vanasco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: body Image tag with an ID code to identify you HTML_WEB_BUGS0.542 0.100 0.100 0.100 does that trap

Re: [SAtalk] Forward mail to spam folder?

2003-06-19 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
what mta are you running? have procmail? there's a million ways to do it. On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 06:15 PM, Matthew Thomas wrote: Greetings, I recently got SpamAssassin 2.55 running with MIMEDefang. I'd like to temporarily (say over a weekend), send mail marked as spam to a spam mailb

[SAtalk] question: HTML_WEB_BUGS

2003-06-19 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
body Image tag with an ID code to identify you HTML_WEB_BUGS0.542 0.100 0.100 0.100 does that trap http://blank.gif?id=123123";> --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An

Re: [SAtalk] As seen on ...

2003-06-19 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
n Thu, 2003-06-19 at 20:41, Jonathan Vanasco wrote: having any html comments at all pretty much signifies spam or normal email between a couple of web designers. -- Yorkshire Dave --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Devel

Re: [SAtalk] As seen on ...

2003-06-19 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 01:00 PM, Pierre Bacquet wrote: * some high scores when there are too many HTML comments (with meaningless contents) or very long ones made of consecutive chars without any space. having any html comments at all pretty much signifies spam do spamassassin rules wo

Re: [SAtalk] OK, this Nigerian takes the cake, hands down!

2003-06-18 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
no, this guy takes the cake http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/51/31270.html --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You G

Re: [SAtalk] We TEACH you how to SPAM and make a Fortune!!

2003-06-18 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
I've been looking at Sugarplum spam poison and teergrube/tar pitting, but the gurus on this list seem to thing neither is a good thing. fuck that. how about this? 1) hack their server 2) upload a shitload of metallica tracks 3) call the riaa ---

Re: [SAtalk] Spam filtering on a different host

2003-06-12 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
look into replacing exim with sendmail, and use spamd instead of spamassassin, thats my idea. you're saving some overhead on machine 1 by moving spamassassin off it -- but then you're creating more processes for future deliveries. i dont know if you'd be saving enough overhead to warrant that.

Re: [SAtalk] Question about sa-learn

2003-06-09 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
i've got a similar thing running SA-exim i only run sitewide - i'm not offering individual users their own prefs (we're a small company) so, spamd is running with /etc/spamassassin/local.cf as the local configuration file in there, i have these lines for bayes: ## ## Bayes ## # Enable the Bay

[SAtalk] spams that get through

2003-06-06 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
some spam has gotten though lately with characteristics like the following: 1) EMVJJIUHXRHCKNQIULFTQGTMGLWWSNDDRJVGKMDGXSKATVUPOITCMYWOTFHMRJDQKJDPVTHC OTGVCU-3809950 2) a{LOCAL_PART}o{LOCAL_PART}e 3) d y e w e e v l p t u? w c y c y s j t k s d? 4) Unsubs.cribe 5) kcv yuekaxgymqfur b

Re: [SAtalk] How to delete or move spammessages?

2003-06-06 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
In my exim setup (using sa-exim) i scan incoming mail, and have the spam status by the time i route it to the appropriate address. That said, i can just delete it or deliver it, or even reject it based on the level. I don't know if anything similar exists for postfix... BUT you could have a stan

Re: [SAtalk] SpamSending Tools for testing (do they exist?)

2003-06-06 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
Thanks to all! On Thursday, June 5, 2003, at 03:48 PM, Many People wrote: --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed

[SAtalk] SpamSending Tools for testing (do they exist?)

2003-06-06 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
Call me crazy... I'd love to run an app/script/whatever to send me spam I need to test what my new system is doing with high ranking spam -- (my current check is for 10 points) forwarding mail from my old system lowers points, waiting for spam to come in by slutting a test address around the i

[SAtalk] How can i tell if razor is working?

2003-05-31 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
Sounds dumb, but I've got the razor check specified in the spamassassin configuration file, and I've got it naming a specific razor file for sitewide filtering too only problem is, i can't seem to figure out if its actually running it or not -- anyone know how to tell?

[SAtalk] Whitelist an expression?

2003-05-31 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
Someone high up in my company writes email exclusively in all-caps, utters countless profanities, and has been known to use more than five consecutive exclamation points on a regular basis. That said, his emails score ridiculously high on the standard spamassassin tests. I could whitelist his

Re: [SAtalk] Getting spamd to start on boot.

2003-05-30 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
almost there.. .you missed 1 line #chkconfig --add spamd; #chkconfig --levels 2345 spamd on On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 11:22 AM, John Lang wrote: Good morning. I'm probably going to get flamed for asking this... I'm running SA on RH7.3 w/sendmail. SA was installed from the bianaries. I hav