definitely do not use (or
like) them.
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me in the right direction that would be greatly
appreciated.
I can't readily help you with this, but I have to say, it really put
a smile on my face to read it!
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than support for ADL mode.
>
> How useful would an ez80 backend in SDCC, which would generate code for
> the Z80 mode of the eZ80 be?
Wow, yes. I'd certainly use such functionality.
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ell me this week.
>> Photos of my setup are available upon request, if you're curious.
>
> pics or it didn't happen.
Heh, ok. I will take some pics this afternoon.
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>
> www.mcmackins.org www.delwink.com
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>
> On 03/30/2016 01:01 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
>> On 03/30/2016 01:24 PM, Gavin Bauer wrote:
>>> Not quite sdcc relelated directly, just thought I'd get some help on a
>>> hardwa
> Current devices used are mainly 80c32 based. I'm primarily Atmel.
I gave up on computer-tethered programmers decades ago due to exactly
this problem. I use a Data I/O UniSite, which is a standalone machine.
I have never looked back. Life is too short for toy PC-based device
programmers.
to do anything at
all with I/O using just a "blink the LED" program in assembler. When
I get past that hurdle I'll give SDCC a whirl on it.
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g variables in
banked memory?
I ask because I am putting together a Z180-based SBC and want to do
some neat things with it using SDCC.
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Hi folks. Someone (Philipp, I think) wrote some Z180 support for SDCC
a couple of years ago. What's the current status of that support?
Thanks,
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poses.
> Though there are many tools on the internet, is there a built-in tool
> inside SDCC?
There isn't that I'm aware of. On a UNIX system with GNU binutils
installed, you can do this:
$ objcopy -Iihex -Obinary in.hex out.bin
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controller designs which are AVR-based.
> Besides it's hard
> to push through changes (this issue has many facets I won't discuss
> here) and mere users' requests are generally seen as annoyance. Atmel
> has hijacked it in the very same way as TI for msp-gcc (being bash
On 12/19/2013 05:40 PM, Masur Jonathan wrote:
> Le 19.12.2013 11:12, Dave McGuire a écrit :
>>Well, GCC supports AVR because people wrote AVR support into GCC. ;)
>> AVR is a bit more "compiler friendly" than, say, the Z80.
>
> Well, I'm not familiar wi
the Z80.
Indeed, and a much "bigger" processor, in more than just address space.
GCC was/is pretty much the compiler of choice for 68K stuff. It was
generally just about the first thing I'd install on a new Sun
work
certainly has potential to support 8-bitters much better than gcc, but
> it's unlikely anybody will invest into the avr branch now - it's easier to
> learn to live with the limitations of avr-gcc.
What limitations? I use it every day at work, it works great for me.
ozen nice consistent standard ones. No thanks.
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ROFL!! Nicely done. :-)
A big, red, ominous-looking LED. :)
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se is there some way to perform a similar test on read only code
> memory or on in system programmable flash memory?
As another list member noted, this is usually done by storing a
checksum somewhere in the firmware load, and computing/testing it.
That's pretty effective, and very comm
On 08/31/2013 01:11 AM, jon wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-08-30 at 18:56 -0400, Dave McGuire wrote:
>> On 08/30/2013 02:20 PM, jon wrote:
>>>> Thanks to all that replied to my shockingly newbie question! I googled
>>>> more and found the answers I needed. I love SDCC! But
ards what other hardware you
> can buy for the money and its a no contest. Plus having a linux kernel
> gives me networking, filesystems, displays etc.
...and a rather dramatic amount of complexity to control eight relays.
Good heavens. I think I need a stiff drink aft
ally good processors.
Well I kept enough from my last employer that I'll have plenty for my own
projects. ;)
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s51 implementations that have on-chip memory in
that address space, transparently. I've done bunches of work with the
Philips (erm, NXP) P89C66x chips, for example, which have "external" RAM
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On 09/05/2012 02:29 PM, Groepaz wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 September 2012, Dave McGuire wrote:
>> On 09/05/2012 06:52 AM, Groepaz wrote:
>>> err, no - the PCE uses a NEC "HuC6280" CPU, which is "6502 like", but
>>> contains a bunch of rather specific ex
py and paging?? Wow. Are these chips available
anywhere?
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it may be possible to allow for the use of the 8085's two
additional instructions, perhaps via the peephole optimizer. I don't
recall what those two additional instructions do, or if they're worth
bothering with.
con Labs 8051s with
> built-in debug and flash and all of that?
Umm, because the OP wants to use an 8085?
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code with an ISR defined in it as
above and look at the assembly listing. This part of the Z80 support
seems to be incompletely documented.
(I didn't know you had gotten that far on your board yet...I'm swamped
until the ~24th with a work deadline bu
r2k, gbz80)? Which bugs or missing
> features are most important to you? In case you use z88dk: Which ones
> do you consider most important for the use of sdcc in z88dk?
Support for the eZ80 family might be nice, for that wider address spac
2430 is, I've written a script which
> gets invoked by the build system. Things work like this:
...
I think this is a fantastic idea. The next step might be inter-bank
call analyses to add a "placement weight" (or something like that) to
optimize function destination segments f
his is fantastic news! Thank you so much for doing this!!
> P.S.: Which features would you like to see next in the Z180 port?
Expanded addressing support!
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I'd be very happy to see Z180 enhancements. I have a bunch of those
chips here and am planning to do some projects with them in the longer
term. I agree that -mz180 would be the best way to enable this.
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I would say definitely yes, but control their use with a compiler option.
When the Z80 was considered a mainstream processor for
general-purpose computing, in the CP/M era, lots of software, both
commercial and otherwise, used the undocum
0
> * eZ80
> * Rabbit 2000 / 3000
> * Rabbit 3000A
> * Rabbit 4000 / 5000
> * Other (please indicate)
>
> Implementation:
> * Z8400A
> * Z84C0004
> * T80
> * TV80
> * Wishbone Z80
> * NextZ80
> * Other (please indicate)
Plain old Z80 here, though I'll
I tried it briefly.
...which is, of course, its intended purpose.
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> p.s. I wish I could say I never used Windows, but at least I have been on Unix
> since version 7.
Nice!
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I think I had *one* of those machines crash *once*, for
all-day/everyday use spanning 25 years...hence the "patience"
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build machines once my racks are moved.
Not the Windows one though, no Windows here.
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On 6/9/11 12:22 PM, Diego Herranz wrote:
> But, PIC is configured to run with internal oscillator (_INTRC_IO), so
> no xtal is needed.
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Dave McGuire <mailto:mcgu...@neurotica.com>> wrote:
>
t, do you have access to an oscilloscope?
Have you verified that your loading capacitor(s) on the crystal are
of an appropriate value?
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ground close to the chip can lite
On 5/19/11 9:53 AM, Lin Rongrong wrote:
> Besides the highest rank, it is also exciting that the original authur is
> still keep an eye on the project.
I was pleased to see this as well. :-)
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inbound email more effectively,
or unsubscribe from some lists until your volume is more manageable.
Don't try to make YOUR email volume issues everyone else's problem by
mucking about with a proven, established, and well-liked community format.
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thing else.
Personally, I try not to associate with those types of people. Since
making that decision, I find my life is far more pleasant.
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several 8051-based projects over the years,
both hobby and commercial, with great results. I've not yet used it for any
Z80 stuff, but I will be doing a Z80-based project soon.
It'd be great to see someone do a Z8 port. I'd work on one myself if I had
more
ut a LOT of them were made, and they found their way into all
sorts of stuff. Just the other day I saw a dental chair controller
built around an 8748, still in service. (and probably will be for a
very long time)
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have about 200 of them. And that's only the UV-erasable versions, not
the OTPs or mask-programmed ones.
Of course I'd never use one for a commercial design, but there's more
to life than commercial designs. :)
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On 1/25/11 12:51 PM, Gert van der Knokke wrote:
> Is it possible to tweak sdcc so that it generates 8048 code ?
I personally don't know, but I must say, that would be very nice indeed!
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no mail from you in the future
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
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>
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Hmm, and you didn't unsubscribe from this mailing list? Interesting!
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On Oct 12, 2010, at 10:39 AM, "Gabbay, Dan" wrote:
> I was going through similar kind of problems and eventually decided to
> spend around $2
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That is a relief, I'm hoping to use it soon! :-)
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> Does anyone knows where can I get 8051 core to be implemented on Altera
> FPGA?
Is there one on opencores.org? There are many processor cores there;
I'd be surprised if there weren't an 8051.
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o that configure the build process. This is how we have
> done it
> on cf-x86 (Linux amd64) and mirror-doors (Mac OS X ppc) snapshot build
> machines. We can discuss abut this on a private channel...
Ok.
>>> Is Solaris on sparc or x86?
>>
>>This is on UltraSP
d for my immediate needs (two SCO virtual machines). I can
easily spin up a few more VMs on it and get you Solaris/x86, NetBSD/
i386 and possibly FreeBSD, if it runs nicely under VMware (which it
probably does).
looking at doing something with a PIC18 chip
very soon.
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things. I'm hoping that someone will be willing to make these
portability changes whenever he/she has time.
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Hmm. The whole world uses RS232 for that, and likely always
will. I'd suggest getting a USB<->RS232 adapter. I've been using
them for years and they work wonderfully.
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>
but it's
> so long ago I cannot remember now ;-)
In K&R (pre-ANSI) C, the declaration would be:
int (<-- no "void" type)
Delay(t)
uint16_t t;
{
...
}
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> software compiled with sdcc hopefully :)
>
Hey, that sounds like fun!
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It should definitely be made available, though...it sounds VERY
useful!
ode segment is 51 bytes
smaller and the lcall/ljmp instructions are now acalls and ajmps.
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this option had been added in release 2.8. I'm running 2.7. I'll
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Has anyone written any general-purpose routines for SDCC to deal
with the on-chip I2C controller in the 87C751 that they'd be willing
to share?
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f "Windows blinders".
People who run Windows tend to only ever find Windows software,
because they tend to look for software in places for which one finds
Windows software. From my perspective, as someone who has *never*
run Windows
ailable for Windows, and aren't ever likely to
be. Those vendors are porting to Linux, but not to Windows, as is
not taken seriously for things like chip design or "large-scale"
electronic design. (that said, I find it surprising that Linux IS
being taken seriously in that
ger from the key.
Good lord, a single source file of four thousand lines?
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. My main 8/e system
uses a TU56 as its system device.
> My understanding was
> that, when CP/M was being designed, half the winos on skid row
> could "drive"
> OS8, as it was so widely used. That made its console interface very
> attractive. I'm not sure that
y spaces in the instruction map. It's been like that for
> decades, so
> there's been no need for "new" assemblers.
Touche', and point well taken. But not many people develop
producti
y
processing is going to be the only file in the project, it can't
assign absolute addresses, and thus only knows where things are if
there's an ORG statement somewhere. This (usually) means that an
assembler that also inextricably does (what we
ecent, though.
> Since I'd see no need for a linker in this context, I'd never have
> looked at
> the linker doc's to find out how to drive the assembler and
> generate the
> necessary output. This is useful information.
Understood. I can see how that
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> compiler. Where, if at all, are these directives documented, or,
> how did
> you find out what they are and when/why they're needed?
The --code-loc and --data-loc directives should be self-
explanatory, but if they aren't, they're in the SDCC documentation.
stuff in there like interrupt vectors
in assembly routines..)
I've not yet used OMF51-format debugging support, but adding --
debug to your command lines should do the trick there.
Let me know how it goes, and let me know if any other details on
my code or setup would be helpful.
is notorious for making messes? No...it
means I should either develop the skills required to use the hammer
properly, or find a line of work that doesn't involve the use of
hammers.
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n't actually work that way. I'm
tired of suggesting that you go write some code. Why don't you go
have a meeting or something, and *I* will go write some code. It has
become clear that you've become too mired in your procedures to ever
get around to it.
G'night.
it.
People buy it not because they prefer it, but because they're too
clueless to realize that there are better ways to compute. I run up
against this every day. Things are improving, but it's slow going.
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> lead to better documentation.
>
> I'm still reading ... and hoping someone comes up with something I
> can use
> to further that goal.
If you describe what particular difficulty you're hitting, people
here (even I, someone who's about ready to wring
you
through any problems that you may run into. Even I, a person who
you've pissed off in other forums time and time again, have sincerely
offered assistance. Instead, you've chosen to waste your energy on
this discussion for DAYS now.
This is tickling a vague and disturbing
ompentent
> programmers, kicked upstairs because they were in the way, and
> secondly
> because they're hopelessly incompentent as managers of software
> development,
> possibly both.
Richard, you talk like someone who has been "suitified" for far
too long. The
as I'm able to
> determine from simulation. I want to assemble it in the SDCC suite's
> assembler in order to generate the files that are palatable to
> SiLabs' IDE,
> so I can program their part and run their in-circuit debugger. This
> requires the availability of
ehavior is ALL
that matters.
As a case in point, I quite literally put food on the table with
this "unusable" compiler for all of 2002 and 2003...while you're
sitting here grumbling about it on a mailing list for the past three
days.
Stop griping and go write some code.
an as an afterthought.
That's nice in theory, but in the real world, it just doesn't
work. That you're having such difficulties, and that this thread has
gone on for days, illustrates this fact.
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On Sep 5, 2008, at 12:28 PM, Richard Erlacher wrote:
>> Get in there, try things and if they don't work then you've learned
>> something.
>>
> Yes ... I'll have learned that they don't work.
Dear God, PLEASE tell me that you're kidding, Richa
wer yet are supported
> by SDCC,
> according to what I've read so far. I saw nothing about an 805x
> assembler
> among the assembler doc.
I don't have a source tree in front of me, but I've *used* the doc
for the MCS51 as
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> Dave,
>
> it was a time when p2c/f2c was only an option for gcc
>
> http://directory.fsf.org/project/p2c/
> http://www.netlib.org/f2c/f2c.1
>
> Andrey
>
>
> Dave McGuire wrote:
>
>> On Sep 4, 2008, at 4:03 PM, Andrey Vlassov wrote:
>>
>&
eveloped quite a few systems using
SDCC, some of which are successful commercial products. Just sit
down and write your firmware, man.
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er(outputs executables) --> executable file
It simply amazes me that people who are involved in embedded
development at any level don't know this. I guess the era of "click
here to write your embedded program" has reall
On Sep 4, 2008, at 12:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm no expert in SDCC, but I use it on my WinXP box without Cygwin.
>
> Aren't most (all?) compilers command line?
I've never seen or heard of one that wasn't, except for some early
Mac-based compiler
n all cases, but I've
never found it to be THAT bad. I'm very curious as to what sort of
problems you ran into.
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Hmm, I suppose so. I've never run it under Linux myself.
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On Sep 3, 2008, at 1:54 AM, Richard Erlacher wrote:
> Gee ... no ... I thought it was LINUX software.
>
> regards,
>
> Richard Erlacher
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dave
are already
> complaining
> about free
> software. Who knows, your bits may be held hostage until you
> provide the
> proper
> documentation.
>
> George
>
> Dave McGuire wrote:
>> On Sep 2, 2008, at 7:13 PM, Richard Erlacher wrote:
>>
>>> Further
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