[sane-devel] SANE2, time for a decision

2007-01-09 Thread Johannes Meixner
Hello, David, David, Markus, Jens, George I hope you don't mind that I included you in this thread which is about a new/enhanced standard to access scanners. At least I would like to have you informed, see the "SANE2, time for a decision" thread on http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-de

[sane-devel] SANE2, time for a decision

2007-01-08 Thread Jon Chambers
On Monday 08 January 2007 19:28, Gerhard Jaeger wrote: > I also think we should setup a more or less small > group of developers who are willing to help Oliver > to finish the sane2 standard. [...] > During this time the team around Oliver should > be found and they could start with their work. A

[sane-devel] SANE2, time for a decision

2007-01-08 Thread Ariel Garcia
Hi everybody, > I also think we should setup a more or less small > group of developers who are willing to help Oliver > to finish the sane2 standard. We might should setup > a list of stuff that should also go into this new > standard - this list should be more or less a whishlist, > which means

[sane-devel] SANE2, time for a decision

2007-01-08 Thread Gerhard Jaeger
On Sunday 07 January 2007 20:04, Martin Owens wrote: > Toy might want to look at Enlightened Absolutism; because democracy > doesn't work for software development. to inefficient. full ack. [SNIPSNAP] I also think we should setup a more or less small group of developers who are willing to help O

[sane-devel] SANE2, time for a decision

2007-01-07 Thread Martin Owens
Toy might want to look at Enlightened Absolutism; because democracy doesn't work for software development. to inefficient. If you want to develop a standard, do so; don't search for consensus you only have to put it in public eyes for scrutiny, this doesn't stop the development of driven people.

[sane-devel] SANE2, time for a decision

2007-01-07 Thread Skorous
I think he meant that a small group of invested and motivated people would be able to make a lot faster progress rather than having to put every idea to a vote rather than saying that most people aren't qualified to participate. A republic vs. a democracy vs. benevolent dictatorship if you will

[sane-devel] SANE2, time for a decision

2007-01-07 Thread m. allan noah
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007, Oliver Rauch wrote: [snip] > The SANE2 standard is not finished, so it does not make sens to start coding > SANE2. It would be a big mistake to start coding SANE2 at this point because > the standard is not finished and will change. [snip] > I spent a lot of time in the SANE

[sane-devel] SANE2, time for a decision

2007-01-07 Thread Alessandro Zummo
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 23:31:03 +0100 Julien BLACHE wrote: > Alessandro Zummo wrote: > > > A fork will inevitably lead to more features > > and that might as well turn into sane2. > > Or to an utter failure. > > You need to calm down and think this through. > > Henning told you that already,

[sane-devel] SANE2, time for a decision

2007-01-06 Thread Julien BLACHE
Alessandro Zummo wrote: > A fork will inevitably lead to more features > and that might as well turn into sane2. Or to an utter failure. You need to calm down and think this through. Henning told you that already, Oliver just told you that too. Are you going to start listening, or continue b

[sane-devel] SANE2, time for a decision

2007-01-06 Thread Oliver Rauch
Am Samstag, 6. Januar 2007 20:39 schrieben Sie: > > This way we could have finished the standard in about 8-12 weeks. > > > > After that we could start coding SANE2. And when this standard is worth > > to support it then there will be coders for sanei-code and for frontends. > > I do agree on the

[sane-devel] SANE2, time for a decision

2007-01-06 Thread Alessandro Zummo
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 17:09:08 +0100 Frank Zago wrote: > > The poll options will be: > > > > - Reopen development on SANE1 > > - Fork SANE1 > > - Wait SANE2 indefinitely > > > Or "evolve a fork of SANE1 into SANE2". A fork will inevitably lead to more features and that might as well turn

[sane-devel] SANE2, time for a decision

2007-01-06 Thread Alessandro Zummo
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 17:15:03 +0100 (MET) Oliver Rauch wrote: > > The SANE2 standard is not finished, so it does not make sens to start coding > SANE2. It would be a big mistake to start coding SANE2 at this point because > the standard is not finished and will change. > > What should be done i

[sane-devel] SANE2, time for a decision

2007-01-06 Thread Frank Zago
Hello Alessandro Zummo, > Hello sane developers, > > Some weeks ago I introduced (once again) the discussion > about SANE future. Now is time to take action. > > The situation is that we have coders willing to implement > the SANE2 standard (whatever this will be) for a bunch of backends >

[sane-devel] SANE2, time for a decision

2007-01-06 Thread Oliver Rauch
Am Samstag, 6. Januar 2007 16:19 schrieb Alessandro Zummo: > The poll options will be: > > - Reopen development on SANE1 > - Fork SANE1 > - Wait SANE2 indefinitely The SANE2 standard is not finished, so it does not make sens to start coding SANE2. It would be a big mistake to start coding S

[sane-devel] SANE2, time for a decision

2007-01-06 Thread Alessandro Zummo
Hello sane developers, Some weeks ago I introduced (once again) the discussion about SANE future. Now is time to take action. The situation is that we have coders willing to implement the SANE2 standard (whatever this will be) for a bunch of backends but are missing the people required