I think he meant that a small group of invested and motivated people would be able to make a lot faster progress rather than having to put every idea to a vote rather than saying that most people aren't qualified to participate. A republic vs. a democracy vs. benevolent dictatorship if you will.... ;-)
On 1/6/07, m. allan noah <an...@pfeiffer.edu> wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jan 2007, Oliver Rauch wrote: > > [snip] > > > The SANE2 standard is not finished, so it does not make sens to start coding > > SANE2. It would be a big mistake to start coding SANE2 at this point because > > the standard is not finished and will change. > > [snip] > > > I spent a lot of time in the SANE2 standard proposal. It took me a lot of > > energie and time to work out this proposal, but the following infinite and > > partly useless discussion about SANE2 (some years ago) made me stop my work > > on it. > > your insistence on having a completed standard prior to coding is exactly > what created your desire to stop. you gave those who disagreed with you > the power to halt your development. i was not involved with sane 5 years > ago when most of the discussions took place, but i daresay that if i had > arrived on the scene and found that you personally had already started > coding sane2 with modest consensus and a history of being flexible, i > would have helped you. > > instead, we find ourselves staring at a standard that is outdated > regarding many of the new ideas that have come along in the last 4 years, > and any time someone tries to start up a discussion, they get told to hold > their horses cause the standard is not done? > > in the absense of a strong leader to direct things (no torvalds here), i > am willing to bet that we need some running code BEFORE the rough > consensus :) > > > The standard is not ready for coding, but we can finish it shortly, the > > major > > part is done. But it is only possible when we create a little group (3-5 > > backend and frontend programmers) that discuss and improve the standard > > proposal NON PUBLIC - or we will get the infinite discussion again. > > that is the most insulting suggestion that i have heard lately. only some > people on this list are qualified for the continuing discussion of sane2? > that the public only gets 1-2 weeks to comment? > > i am not nearly as good a programmer as you guys, but even i can see some > need for changes to the standard draft. the fact that prior discussions > got 'heated' (i dont know, i have not read them all) does not mean they > will again. that is, as long as the folks who put time into the current > draft are not afraid to see it change... > > allan > > -- > "so don't tell us it can't be done, putting down what you don't know. > money isn't our god, integrity will free our souls" - Max Cavalera > > -- > sane-devel mailing list: sane-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/sane-devel > Unsubscribe: Send mail with subject "unsubscribe your_password" > to sane-devel-requ...@lists.alioth.debian.org >
