[sage-support] How can i solve Lambert's W-function by Sage?

2009-08-29 Thread Zang Yun-gang
I want to solve the follow Lambert's W-function : a^k + bk +c = 0 In Maple, there is a function LambertW() function to use. Is there any funtion like this in Sage ? Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com T

[sage-support] Re: How can i solve Lambert's W-function by Sage?

2009-08-29 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi, On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Zang Yun-gang wrote: > > I want to solve the follow Lambert's W-function : > > a^k + bk +c = 0 > > In Maple, there is a function LambertW() function to use. > Is there any funtion like this in Sage ? Incidentally, such a question came up very recently. The re

[sage-support] Re: How can i solve Lambert's W-function by Sage?

2009-08-29 Thread Zang Yun-gang
Thank you very much, It's useful! On 8月29日, 下午4时08分, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Zang Yun-gang wrote: > > > I want to solve the follow Lambert's W-function : > > > a^k + bk +c = 0 > > > In Maple, there is a function LambertW() function to use. > > Is there any f

[sage-support] English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread Simon King
Dear Sage supporters, sorry, I did not find a better title for this thread. It is about the following. If one has a cochain of degree 8, one could say (shorter) "8-cochain". John Palmieri pointed out to me that it should be "an 8-cochain", not "a 8-cochain", a fact I wasn't aware of. Can someon

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Simon, On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Simon King wrote: > Can someone tell me the rule in what cases one uses "a" and in what > cases "an"? E.g., one has "an" if (and only if?) the next word starts > with a,e,i. Usually "an" comes before a word that starts with a vowel, i.e a, e, i, o, u

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread Simon King
Hi! This is a related subject: Isn't the following a bug: sage: n = 113 sage: n.ordinal_str() '113rd' sage: n = 112 sage: n.ordinal_str() '112nd' sage: n = 111 sage: n.ordinal_str() '111st' I opened the ticket http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6842 [with patch, needs review] Cheers, S

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread MaxTheMouse
> Can someone tell me the rule in what cases one uses "a" and in what > cases "an"? E.g., one has "an" if (and only if?) the next word starts > with a,e,i. > The choice between a and an isn't so simple because it depends on the initial sound of the word rather than the initial letter. A quick se

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: >> And is there a function (or at least an easy algorithm that I can >> implement myself) that for a given integer n answers the question >> whether it is "an %d-cochain"%n or "a %d-cochain"%n ? > > Any number that is spelt with a vowel, e.g.

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread Simon King
Hi Minh, On Aug 29, 12:30 pm, Minh Nguyen wrote: [...] > and you can safely put "a" before a number whose spelling begins with > a consonant. However, depends on where you are, people do say "an > hundred-cochain" with a silent "h", even though at least in Australia > it's "a hundred-cochain" wh

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread Simon King
Hi Minh, On Aug 29, 12:32 pm, Minh Nguyen wrote: > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: [...] > And we do this: "a one" not "an one", even though "one" starts with a vowel. Ah, that confirms my feeling towards "an one-cochain". And I have a similar aversion against "an Unix mach

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread David Joyner
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Simon King wrote: > > Hi Minh, > > On Aug 29, 12:32 pm, Minh Nguyen wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > [...] >> And we do this: "a one" not "an one", even though "one" starts with a vowel. > > Ah, that confirms my feeling towards "an o

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread Alex Ghitza
> And I have a similar aversion against "an Unix machine" (without > intention to offend Unix, but I would say "a Unix machine"). What do > natives think? So, isn't it only about the vowels a,e,i, after all? For words that start with "u", if the initial sound is like a "you", one uses "a" instead

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread wolmid
Hi Simon, 2009/8/29 Simon King : > > Hi Minh, > > On Aug 29, 12:32 pm, Minh Nguyen wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > [...] >> And we do this: "a one" not "an one", even though "one" starts with a vowel. > > Ah, that confirms my feeling towards "an one-cochain". > >

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Simon, On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Simon King wrote: > Ah, that confirms my feeling towards "an one-cochain". > > And I have a similar aversion against "an Unix machine" (without > intention to offend Unix, but I would say "a Unix machine"). It's written "a Unix machine" which mirrors

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread David Joyner
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:11 AM, wrote: > ... > For numbers, it could be problematic for those starting with 1: > a 1, an 11 (an eleven), a 111 (a one hundred ... ), a (a one > thousand ...), an 1 (an eleven thousand ...). You're right, I hadn't thought of that case. There is also "a

[sage-support] Installation prob SAGEMATH [Ubuntu]

2009-08-29 Thread pepe_elcruel
This is what I get: pe...@peter-desktop:~$ cd sage-4.1.1-linux-Ubuntu_9.04-i686-Linux pe...@peter-desktop:~/sage-4.1.1-linux- pe...@peter-desktop:~/sage-4.1.1-linux-Ubuntu_9.04-i686-Linux$ ./sage -- | Sage Version 4.1.1, Release

[sage-support] Re: Installation prob SAGEMATH [Ubuntu]

2009-08-29 Thread Harald Schilly
"problem" was solved via irc. h --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.go

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread Simon King
Hi all! Thank you very much for all your comments and your help to improve my general knowledge! I guess these are things that one would learn at school, but I never learned English in a formal setting over a period of more than 4 weeks. At school I just had German, Latin, French and Ancient Gree

[sage-support] A weird exception?

2009-08-29 Thread Rolandb
Hi, I came across an amazing difference in execution time. Consider: sage: def heelsnel(reeks,maxum): ... ... def expon(mx,g): return floor(log(mx)/log(g))+1 ... ... if len(reeks)==1: return expon(maxum,reeks[0]) ... tel=0 ... for k in range(1,expon(maxum,reeks[-1])): ...

[sage-support] Re: A weird exception?

2009-08-29 Thread Simon King
Hi Roland, indeed strange. I think a reasonable approach is to print some status information, e.g.: sage: def expon(mx,g): : print 'expon' : return floor(log(mx)/log(g))+1 : sage: def heelsnel(reeks,maxum): : print reeks : if len(reeks)==1: return expon(maxum

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread Jaap Spies
MaxTheMouse wrote: > >> Can someone tell me the rule in what cases one uses "a" and in what >> cases "an"? E.g., one has "an" if (and only if?) the next word starts >> with a,e,i. >> > > The choice between a and an isn't so simple because it depends on the > initial sound of the word rather than

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread Erik Lane
> Usually "an" comes before a word that starts with a vowel, i.e a, e, > i, o, u. So one would say "an eight o'clock meeting" or "an 8 o'clock > meeting". More examples: an amphibian, an egg, an igloo, an octopus, > an umbrella. However, there are situations when this rule doesn't > apply. In soft

[sage-support] Re: A weird exception?

2009-08-29 Thread John H Palmieri
On Aug 29, 8:51 am, Simon King wrote: > Note that expon uses Maxima, because you use the logarithm. So, I > reckon that your problem is related > withhttp://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/4731 > andhttp://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6818. > If not, you might try to work around by th

[sage-support] Re: A weird exception?

2009-08-29 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Rolandb wrote: > > Hi, > > I came across an amazing difference in execution time. Consider: > > sage: def heelsnel(reeks,maxum): > ... > ... def expon(mx,g): return floor(log(mx)/log(g))+1 > ... > ... if len(reeks)==1: return expon(maxum,reeks[0]) > ..

[sage-support] Re: A weird exception?

2009-08-29 Thread Simon King
Hi William, On Aug 29, 5:52 pm, William Stein wrote: [...] > Can you post a version where I can actually paste in the code?   You > probably have this in a file somewhere without the sage: and ... prompts. Is it possible to change the preparser, so that it not only "swallows" the sage prompt, b

[sage-support] Re: A weird exception?

2009-08-29 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Simon King wrote: > > Hi William, > > On Aug 29, 5:52 pm, William Stein wrote: > [...] > > Can you post a version where I can actually paste in the code? You > > probably have this in a file somewhere without the sage: and ... prompts. > > Is it possible to cha

[sage-support] sage -upgrade failed on OS X

2009-08-29 Thread Pierre
hello, i went 'sage -upgrade' today, and now i get: mac-mini-de-pedro-zero:~ pedrozero$ sage -- | Sage Version 3.2.3, Release Date: 2009-01-05 | | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.

[sage-support] Re: sage -upgrade failed on OS X

2009-08-29 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Pierre wrote: > > hello, > > i went 'sage -upgrade' today, and now i get: You should install a new version of Sage which you should download from the http://sagemath.org website. William > > mac-mini-de-pedro-zero:~ pedrozero$ sage > ---

[sage-support] Re: A weird exception?

2009-08-29 Thread Rolandb
On 29 aug, 18:43, John H Palmieri wrote: > On Aug 29, 8:51 am, Simon King wrote: > > > Note that expon uses Maxima, because you use the logarithm. So, I > > reckon that your problem is related > > withhttp://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/4731 > > andhttp://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticke

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread john_perry_usm
On Aug 29, 6:30 am, Minh Nguyen wrote: > ... > > and you can safely put "a" before a number whose spelling begins with > a consonant. However, depends on where you are, people do say "an > hundred-cochain" with a silent "h", even though at least in Australia > it's "a hundred-cochain" where the l

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: > Another famous example: an $m \times n$ matrix $A$ A similar example: an $n \times m$ matrix. -- Regards Minh Van Nguyen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Simon, On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Simon King wrote: > Perhaps this is a way out: > c_2_2*b_1_0^6+c_2_2^3*b_1_0^2: 8-Cochain in H^*(D8; GF(2)) That seems OK to me. The message is concise and packs more information into a short line than if you had written it as a full sentence. --

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread Robert Dodier
Minh Nguyen wrote: > Usually "an" comes before a word that starts with a vowel, i.e a, e, > i, o, u. So one would say "an eight o'clock meeting" or "an 8 o'clock > meeting". More examples: an amphibian, an egg, an igloo, an octopus, > an umbrella. However, there are situations when this rule does

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread Jaap Spies
Minh Nguyen wrote: > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: > > > >> Another famous example: an $m \times n$ matrix $A$ > > A similar example: an $n \times m$ matrix. > Or an $n \times n$ matrix :-) Jaap --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this gr

[sage-support] Re: sage -upgrade failed on OS X

2009-08-29 Thread Pierre
> You should install a new version of Sage which you should download from > thehttp://sagemath.orgwebsite. Oh. Presumably i've got a very old version, and the current one has gone through drastic changes ? Or was i just unlucky with the upgrade ? thanks anyway, i'll install a fresh version. >

[sage-support] Re: sage -upgrade failed on OS X

2009-08-29 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Pierre wrote: > > > You should install a new version of Sage which you should download from > thehttp://sagemath.orgwebsite. > > Oh. Presumably i've got a very old version, and the current one has > gone through drastic changes ? Or was i just unlucky with the > u

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: > Or an $n \times n$ matrix :-) These are also interesting :-) an F-distribution an R-module an S-expression an X-ray -- Regards Minh Van Nguyen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sag

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread kcrisman
On Aug 29, 6:45 pm, Robert Dodier wrote: > Minh Nguyen wrote: > > Usually "an" comes before a word that starts with a vowel, i.e a, e, > > i, o, u. So one would say "an eight o'clock meeting" or "an 8 o'clock > > meeting". More examples: an amphibian, an egg, an igloo, an octopus, > > an umbrel

[sage-support] Re: A weird exception?

2009-08-29 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Aug 29, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Rolandb wrote: > > On 29 aug, 18:43, John H Palmieri wrote: >> On Aug 29, 8:51 am, Simon King wrote: >> >>> Note that expon uses Maxima, because you use the logarithm. So, I >>> reckon that your problem is related withhttp://trac.sagemath.org/ >>> sage_trac/ticket

[sage-support] Re: English grammar of numbers

2009-08-29 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Aug 29, 2009, at 5:25 PM, kcrisman wrote: > On Aug 29, 6:45 pm, Robert Dodier wrote: >> Minh Nguyen wrote: >>> Usually "an" comes before a word that starts with a vowel, i.e a, e, >>> i, o, u. So one would say "an eight o'clock meeting" or "an 8 >>> o'clock >>> meeting". More examples: an a

[sage-support] Re: A weird exception?

2009-08-29 Thread Rolandb
Hi, Using math.log has a disadvantage; it is less accurate. sage: print n(math.log(2),100) sage: print n(log(2),100) 0.69314718055994528622676398300 0.69314718055994530941723212146 Rolandb On 30 aug, 06:48, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Aug 29, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Rolandb wrote: > > > > > > > On