[sage-support] Re: sage-2.8.12 build report

2007-11-07 Thread William Stein
On Nov 7, 2007 11:02 AM, Kate Minola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I go away for a while, and now SAGE does not build > on any of my machines of interest: > > Compiling from source using gcc-4.2.2, I get > > *** > x86-Linux, ia64-Linux > *** > While compiling cvxopt-0.8.2.p4, I get > > gcc -pthread

[sage-support] sage-2.8.12 build report

2007-11-07 Thread Kate Minola
I go away for a while, and now SAGE does not build on any of my machines of interest: Compiling from source using gcc-4.2.2, I get *** x86-Linux, ia64-Linux *** While compiling cvxopt-0.8.2.p4, I get gcc -pthread -shared build/temp.linux-i686-2.5/C/base.o build/temp.linux-i686-2.5/C/dense.o bui

[sage-support] Re: cpu time

2007-11-07 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 7, 5:33 pm, "John Cremona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello John, > Isn't there a problem with this: > > "the latter for resources used by those of its > children that have terminated and have been waited for." Yep, that is indeed a problem. > > We want to add up the time us

[sage-support] Re: cpu time

2007-11-07 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 7, 5:29 pm, Simon King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Michael, > > On Nov 7, 4:22 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Simon, > > > > > > This is indeed non-trivial! Even when i compute maxideal(19), which > > > takes a couple of seconds, singular.cputime(t) only returns 0.001

[sage-support] Re: cpu time

2007-11-07 Thread John Cremona
Isn't there a problem with this: "the latter for resources used by those of its children that have terminated and have been waited for." We want to add up the time used by child processes *which are still running*. For example, if sage needs to use maxima (say) it checks to see if max

[sage-support] Re: Fwd: Bug?

2007-11-07 Thread Martin Albrecht
Yes, it is a bug and the fix is at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1122 Martin On Wednesday 07 November 2007, William Stein wrote: > Here's a support request from Jim Carlson: > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Nov 7, 200

[sage-support] Re: cpu time

2007-11-07 Thread Simon King
Dear Michael, On Nov 7, 4:22 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED] dortmund.de> wrote: > > This is indeed non-trivial! Even when i compute maxideal(19), which > > takes a couple of seconds, singular.cputime(t) only returns 0.001. I > > doubt that this is the correct time. > > If you can reproduce this

[sage-support] Re: cpu time

2007-11-07 Thread William Stein
On Nov 7, 2007 7:22 AM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Nov 7, 4:17 pm, Simon King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Martin, > > > > Hello Simon, > > > > Actually, for Singular it is trivial: > > > > > sage: R=singular.ring(0,'(x(1..10))','dp') > > > sage: t= singular.cputime() >

[sage-support] Fwd: Bug?

2007-11-07 Thread William Stein
Here's a support request from Jim Carlson: -- Forwarded message -- From: James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Nov 7, 2007 7:03 AM Subject: Bug? To: William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi William, Attached is a file with odd behavior. p = a prime n = a postive

[sage-support] Re: cpu time

2007-11-07 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 7, 4:17 pm, Simon King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Martin, > Hello Simon, > > Actually, for Singular it is trivial: > > > sage: R=singular.ring(0,'(x(1..10))','dp') > > sage: t= singular.cputime() > > sage: singular.eval('ideal G = maxideal(14)') > > sage: singular.cputime(t) > >

[sage-support] Re: cpu time

2007-11-07 Thread Simon King
Dear Martin, > Actually, for Singular it is trivial: > > sage: R=singular.ring(0,'(x(1..10))','dp') > sage: t= singular.cputime() > sage: singular.eval('ideal G = maxideal(14)') > sage: singular.cputime(t) This is indeed non-trivial! Even when i compute maxideal(19), which takes a couple of seco

[sage-support] Re: cpu time

2007-11-07 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 7, 5:08 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 7, 2007 4:34 AM, John Cremona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It is true that the cpu time does not include any of the child > > processes, and also that in many cases most of the computation is done > > by those. > > > In t

[sage-support] Re: cpu time

2007-11-07 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Wednesday 07 November 2007, Simon King wrote: > John, > > > Many people agree with you that it would be more useful to have the > > aggregate time. > So do i. I made this trac ticket #1118 http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1118 > In the meantime, it would be ok for me to determine th

[sage-support] your email to sage-support

2007-11-07 Thread John Cremona
Dear Paul, I'm not sure I have the hang of these google groups yet. I answered your posting, and some others have posted replies, but you may not have seen any of that! The thread is here: http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support/browse_thread/thread/98e3a6ca615019a3 which I think you can

[sage-support] Re: cpu time

2007-11-07 Thread Simon King
John, > Many people agree with you that it would be more useful to have the > aggregate time. So do i. In the meantime, it would be ok for me to determine the cpu time of, say, a Singular child process via the Singular timer. But apparently this is non-trivial, according to this example: sage:

[sage-support] Re: cpu time

2007-11-07 Thread William Stein
On Nov 7, 2007 4:34 AM, John Cremona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is true that the cpu time does not include any of the child > processes, and also that in many cases most of the computation is done > by those. > > In this case the cardinality is either computed via a call to the > libpari func

[sage-support] Re: cpu time

2007-11-07 Thread John Cremona
Paul, It is true that the cpu time does not include any of the child processes, and also that in many cases most of the computation is done by those. In this case the cardinality is either computed via a call to the libpari function ellap, or by running gp and calling the sea implementation ther

[sage-support] cpu time

2007-11-07 Thread Paul Zimmermann
Hi, it seems the cpu time reported by SAGE does not include that of the spawned processes (sorry for using an old release :-) mermoz% sage -- | SAGE Version 2.8.10, Release Date: 2007-10-28 | | Type n

[sage-support] Re: How to refer to an existing Singular object?

2007-11-07 Thread Simon King
Dear William, you wrote: > You can accomplish the same thing as follows, by simply changing the > ._name attribute (and being sure to kill the sage5 _name that is > generated, to avoid a memory leak): Thank you! I didn't know that the name attribute is called '_name', and i thought that setting

[sage-support] Re: dumb question about installing pari-gp with fink

2007-11-07 Thread John Cremona
As an alternative, which would give you much more than just pari/gp, you could install Sage (www.sagemath.org) which is fully supported on the mac, and then you will have pari/gp. Sage will install everythng it needs. John Cremona CC'd ro sage-support On 06/11/2007, Louis Granboulan <[EMAIL PR