Re: [sage-devel] removing deprecated function-call syntax

2010-05-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 26 May 2010 20:45:36 -0700 William Stein wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Jason Grout > wrote: > > Is anyone opposed to removing the deprecated functionality that > > allows a person to do: > > > > sage: var('x,y') > > (x, y) > > sage: a=x^2+y > > sage: a(1,2) > > /Users/grout/s

[sage-devel] Re: What's the point of two "stable" releases in two days?

2010-05-27 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 27, 2:27 am, kcrisman wrote: > But quite different here - there are no email reminders, no anything. We have an RSS feed and release announcements are emailed to over 1400 people! http://groups.google.com/group/sage-announce/about h -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@

Re: [sage-devel] Plans for partial derivatives?

2010-05-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, On Wed, 26 May 2010 20:37:04 -0400 Tim Lahey wrote: > I seem to recall someone was working on a patch that > allowed one to display (and presumably work with) partial > derivatives in the traditional form. Does anybody know > what happened to that? There are two trac tickets related to this

[sage-devel] Re: Changelogs in SPKG.txt

2010-05-27 Thread kcrisman
On May 26, 8:34 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:31 PM, kcrisman wrote: > > >> > Not without having someone over your shoulder, which is why I still > >> > don't/can't use them.  (Maybe Rob and Jason will finally teach me when > >> > they visit in June!). > > >> Sure. For a

[sage-devel] Re: removing deprecated function-call syntax

2010-05-27 Thread kcrisman
On May 27, 4:12 am, Burcin Erocal wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 2010 20:45:36 -0700 > > > > > > William Stein wrote: > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Jason Grout > > wrote: > > > Is anyone opposed to removing the deprecated functionality that > > > allows a person to do: > > > > sage: var('x,y')

[sage-devel] Re: What's the point of two "stable" releases in two days?

2010-05-27 Thread kcrisman
On May 27, 5:39 am, Harald Schilly wrote: > On May 27, 2:27 am, kcrisman wrote: > > > But quite different here - there are no email reminders, no anything. > > We have an RSS feed and release announcements are emailed to over 1400 > people!http://groups.google.com/group/sage-announce/about > R

[sage-devel] Minimum memory to run tests?

2010-05-27 Thread Mariah
On a x86-Linux-pentium4 machine with 512M of memory, I get sage-4.4.2 test failures that say *** not enough memory I have an x86-Linux-pentium4 machine with 1G of memory (Skynet/cicero), and that machine is able to run the test suite without running out of memory. Is it expected that 1G of me

[sage-devel] Re: Changelogs in SPKG.txt

2010-05-27 Thread leif
On 27 Mai, 02:34, William Stein wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:31 PM, kcrisman wrote: > > >> > Not without having someone over your shoulder, which is why I still > >> > don't/can't use them.  (Maybe Rob and Jason will finally teach me when > >> > they visit in June!). > Go for it!  I wrote h

[sage-devel] sage -advanced

2010-05-27 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Hello, Looking at the output of "sage -advanced", I couldn't see an explanation of "-docbuild". Unfortunately, I cannot provide a better patch than the one below. In fact, to me it's a bit unclear what I can actually put as "lang" and . If there were some more explanation of every option, I'd hig

[sage-devel] Re: Changelogs in SPKG.txt

2010-05-27 Thread kcrisman
On May 27, 10:32 am, leif wrote: > On 27 Mai, 02:34, William Stein wrote: > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:31 PM, kcrisman wrote: > > > >> > Not without having someone over your shoulder, which is why I still > > >> > don't/can't use them.  (Maybe Rob and Jason will finally teach me when > > >>

Re: [sage-devel] sage -advanced

2010-05-27 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Ralf, On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > Hello, > > Looking at the output of "sage -advanced", I couldn't see an explanation > of "-docbuild". Unfortunately, I cannot provide a better patch than the > one below. The output of "sage -help" shows docbuild: [mv...@sage ~]$

Re: [sage-devel] Minimum memory to run tests?

2010-05-27 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Mariah, On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Mariah wrote: > On a x86-Linux-pentium4 machine with 512M of memory, > I get sage-4.4.2 test failures that say > > *** not enough memory > > I have an x86-Linux-pentium4 machine with 1G of > memory (Skynet/cicero), and that machine is able to run the

[sage-devel] Re: Minimum memory to run tests?

2010-05-27 Thread kcrisman
On May 27, 11:27 am, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi Mariah, > > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Mariah wrote: > > On a x86-Linux-pentium4 machine with 512M of memory, > > I get sage-4.4.2 test failures that say > > >   *** not enough memory > > > I have an x86-Linux-pentium4 machine with 1G of > > m

Re: [sage-devel] sage -advanced

2010-05-27 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Thanks Minh, for your suggestions. In fact, I wouldn't have expected that simply typing "sage -docbuild" gives a nice help. In fact, sage is not quite consistent here. "sage -b" does actually do something. Would be nice if there were a system so that, for example, "sage -h -some-option" would giv

[sage-devel] Re: What's the point of two "stable" releases in two days?

2010-05-27 Thread leif
On 27 Mai, 16:30, kcrisman wrote: > On May 27, 5:39 am, Harald Schilly wrote: > > > On May 27, 2:27 am, kcrisman wrote: > > > > But quite different here - there are no email reminders, no anything. > > > We have an RSS feed and release announcements are emailed to over 1400 > > people!http://gro

[sage-devel] Re: Changelogs in SPKG.txt

2010-05-27 Thread leif
On 27 Mai, 16:59, kcrisman wrote: > On May 27, 10:32 am, leif wrote: > > > > > On 27 Mai, 02:34, William Stein wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:31 PM, kcrisman wrote: > > > > >> > Not without having someone over your shoulder, which is why I still > > > >> > don't/can't use them.  (Mayb

[sage-devel] Re: Minimum memory to run tests?

2010-05-27 Thread leif
On 27 Mai, 17:43, kcrisman wrote: > On May 27, 11:27 am, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > > Hi Mariah, > > > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Mariah wrote: > > > On a x86-Linux-pentium4 machine with 512M of memory, > > > I get sage-4.4.2 test failures that say > > > >   *** not enough memory > No swap p

[sage-devel] Re: sage -advanced

2010-05-27 Thread leif
On 27 Mai, 17:43, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > Thanks Minh, > > for your suggestions. In fact, I wouldn't have expected that simply > typing "sage -docbuild" gives a nice help. The =all option should be at top level. Also, "fr/all" (or "en/all") doesn't work. > In fact, sage is not quite consistent he

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage -advanced

2010-05-27 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
BTW, is there some reason why the -advanced output doesn't use an 80 character line length. It's really hard to read if the lines wrap. > > Even dumb (serial) terminals have 132 column mode ;-) > And screens tend to get bigger and wider, so I consider 80 cols a bit > obsolete. I do

[sage-devel] Re: sage -advanced

2010-05-27 Thread leif
On 27 Mai, 19:31, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > BTW, is there some reason why the -advanced output doesn't use an > 80 character line length. It's really hard to read if the lines > wrap. > > > Even dumb (serial) terminals have 132 column mode ;-) > > And screens tend to get bigger and wid

[sage-devel] Re: sage -advanced

2010-05-27 Thread John H Palmieri
On May 27, 8:43 am, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > Thanks Minh, > > for your suggestions. In fact, I wouldn't have expected that simply > typing "sage -docbuild" gives a nice help. > > In fact, sage is not quite consistent here. "sage -b" does actually do > something. Would be nice if there were a system

[sage-devel] Run doctests for external projects

2010-05-27 Thread Martin Raum
Hi all, I've got an extern project, namely, which is not currently part of the Sage tree. Now, I want to start using doctests and I wonder how to do it. Sage reports a mysterious error. sage -t "jacobiforms/jacobiformd1nn_fegenerators.py" # Segfault The point is, this even happens if I remov

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage -advanced

2010-05-27 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Hi John, > See trac ticket #21. Your help looks great. Why isn't it the sage default? What's the procedure to get it into a new release? Ralf -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googleg

[sage-devel] Re: Toric varieties - design discussion

2010-05-27 Thread Andrey Novoseltsev
Hi Volker, I put a new version of toric lattices patch. Now it should work nicely with plain vectors and matrices, in particular homomorphisms seem to do what they should (there is a simple example in the end of "module level" documentation). I don't think anymore that there is any need for a sepa

[sage-devel] 2d hyperbolic geometry, homogeneous spaces, plot

2010-05-27 Thread Vincent D
Hello, It seems that Sage doesn't yet have tools to render nice pictures of hyperbolic geometry. I would like to be able to plot fundamental domains and tessellations for some Fuchsian groups (in the three standard conformal models: half-plane, disc and hyperboloid). Has anybody started some work

[sage-devel] Re: 2d hyperbolic geometry, homogeneous spaces, plot

2010-05-27 Thread Jason Grout
On 5/27/10 10:35 PM, Vincent D wrote: More generally, the way sage.plot is built seems to be dedicated mostly to function graphs. Is it possible to attach geometric objects to an underlying space? meaning that if I have a Square attached to the euclidean plane, I would like to be able to act on

[sage-devel] Re: 2d hyperbolic geometry, homogeneous spaces, plot

2010-05-27 Thread Jason Grout
On 5/27/10 11:12 PM, Jason Grout wrote: On 5/27/10 10:35 PM, Vincent D wrote: More generally, the way sage.plot is built seems to be dedicated mostly to function graphs. Is it possible to attach geometric objects to an underlying space? meaning that if I have a Square attached to the euclidean