[sage-devel] Re: Lazy Infinite Power Series

2008-10-30 Thread Henryk Trappmann
On Oct 30, 2:07 am, "Mike Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your code posted anywhere? I'm sure we can come up with a way to > merge the two implementations. Yes you can see it here: http://github.com/bo198214/hyperops/tree/master/powerseries.py it was originally developed for a different

[sage-devel] Re: Lazy Infinite Power Series

2008-10-30 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Oct 30, 2008, at 12:49 AM, Henryk Trappmann wrote: > On Oct 30, 3:01 am, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> More on topic, much better merge the two and have the best of both >> than have competing implementations. Shouldn't this belong in sage/ >> rings rather than in combinat? >

[sage-devel] Re: Lazy Infinite Power Series

2008-10-30 Thread Mike Hansen
Hello, On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Henryk Trappmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Our lazy mechanism seems however very different. > While you use somehow Stream, I just have a hash table for each power > series. Actually, they're doing pretty much the same thing. A stream models an infini

[sage-devel] Re: Lazy Infinite Power Series

2008-10-30 Thread John Cremona
2008/10/30 Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Since we're working with trac and use mercurial from a Sage interface, >> I strongly recommend that you use our Sage interface to mercurial, not >> mercurial itself. That is, please use the family hg_sage.* of commands >> for interfacing with me

[sage-devel] Re: Lazy Infinite Power Series

2008-10-30 Thread mabshoff
On Oct 30, 2:17 am, "John Cremona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/10/30 Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > >> Since we're working with trac and use mercurial from a Sage interface, > >> I strongly recommend that you use our Sage interface to mercurial, not > >> mercurial itself.

[sage-devel] Re: Bug Day 15

2008-10-30 Thread Franco Saliola
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:23 AM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a reminder that Sage Bug Day 15 will be tomorrow, > Thursday, October 30. See you there: Perhaps it might be a good idea to organize a bug day with more advanced notice? I think that it might help to know in adv

[sage-devel] Re: Bug Day 15

2008-10-30 Thread mabshoff
On Oct 30, 2:51 am, "Franco Saliola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:23 AM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a reminder that Sage Bug Day 15 will be tomorrow, > > Thursday, October 30.  See you there: > > Perhaps it might be a good idea to organize a bu

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook dev problems

2008-10-30 Thread Franco Saliola
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > sonium wrote: >> Gears is an browser extension at the client side. Therefore I have to >> check first if it is installed, store the result and then display the >> "create shortcut" link if necessary. The problem is that I

[sage-devel] Re: Lazy Infinite Power Series

2008-10-30 Thread Henryk Trappmann
On Oct 30, 9:44 am, "Mike Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One of the main features that I need is the ability to handle > recursively/implicitly defined power series. This is currently not > possible in your code base because the series aren't "lazy enough". Yes thats true. Currently if I n

[sage-devel] Re: Bug Day 15

2008-10-30 Thread Franco Saliola
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:55 AM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It looks like every Thursday will be bugday this quarter since that > seems to be William's preferred day :) Ok, cool. Franco -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to s

[sage-devel] Re: Lazy Infinite Power Series

2008-10-30 Thread Mike Hansen
Hi, On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Henryk Trappmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes thats true. Currently if I need cached recursion (and I need it in > the code), > I do > > s = PS() #uninitialized powerseries > def f(n): > #fibonacci example > if n==0 or n==1: >return 1 > #do somethin

[sage-devel] Re: Lazy Infinite Power Series

2008-10-30 Thread Henryk Trappmann
On Oct 30, 1:14 pm, "Mike Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I said recursively defined streams, I meant something a little > more general. For example, if f is a power series and g is exp(f), > then g satisfies g = \int g*f'. This translates to the following code > for the exponential of

[sage-devel] Re: Bug Day 15

2008-10-30 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Franco Saliola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:23 AM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> This is a reminder that Sage Bug Day 15 will be tomorrow, >> Thursday, October 30. See you there: > > Perhaps it might be a good idea to or

[sage-devel] Re: Lazy Infinite Power Series

2008-10-30 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
> Formal Laurent series would also form a field. > For example the formal Laurent series are a field. While this is certainly true mathematically, you might run into trouble computationally. In a (additive and commutative) monoid M there is a (unique) x in M such that for all m in M it holds:

[sage-devel] Re: Lazy Infinite Power Series

2008-10-30 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Ralf Hemmecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Formal Laurent series would also form a field. >> For example the formal Laurent series are a field. > > While this is certainly true mathematically, you might run into trouble > computationally. > > In a (additive and

[sage-devel] Talk slides, feedback appreciated

2008-10-30 Thread mhampton
I am about to give a talk about Sage, any feedback is appreciated. I am using Keynote on a mac, so the pdf does not look as good, but presumably more of you can take a look this way. There is a short movie and demo worksheet too: http://www.d.umn.edu/~mhampton/FreeMath.pdf http://www.d.umn.edu/

[sage-devel] Re: Talk slides, feedback appreciated

2008-10-30 Thread David Joyner
As far as I can see, it looks really great! On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:28 PM, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am about to give a talk about Sage, any feedback is appreciated. I > am using Keynote on a mac, so the pdf does not look as good, but > presumably more of you can take a look t

[sage-devel] Re: Talk slides, feedback appreciated

2008-10-30 Thread Craig Citro
Hey Marshall ... I just had a glance, and it looks great! Out of curiousity, who is the intended audience? -cc --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] F

[sage-devel] Re: Talk slides, feedback appreciated

2008-10-30 Thread mhampton
Mostly undergraduate math majors, but there will be some faculty there from various departments who might decide to use sage in teaching or research. -Marshall On Oct 30, 12:39 pm, "Craig Citro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Marshall ... > > I just had a glance, and it looks great! Out of cur

[sage-devel] Re: Talk slides, feedback appreciated

2008-10-30 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Marshall, On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:28 AM, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am about to give a talk about Sage, any feedback is appreciated. I > am using Keynote on a mac, so the pdf does not look as good, but > presumably more of you can take a look this way. There is a short > mov

[sage-devel] Re: Talk slides, feedback appreciated

2008-10-30 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Oct 30, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi Marshall, > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:28 AM, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I am about to give a talk about Sage, any feedback is appreciated. I >> am using Keynote on a mac, so the pdf does not look as good, but >> presumably mo

[sage-devel] Re: Bug Day 15

2008-10-30 Thread Franco Saliola
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 5:53 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Franco Saliola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Perhaps it might be a good idea to organize a bug day with more >> advanced notice? > > I also announced Bug Day 15 a week ago. But I figured

[sage-devel] Re: Talk slides, feedback appreciated

2008-10-30 Thread mhampton
Thanks for the feedback. I'll add a world map first. I do use my slides as a counterpoint to what I'm saying, so there are a lot of gaps I fill in verbally. I will be revamping this talk into another version I will present at another university, so anything else is appreciated. Jason has comme

[sage-devel] Coercing permutation group elements

2008-10-30 Thread Rob Beezer
I reported a problem multiplying permutation group elements, which became a Trac ticket (http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/ 4150). Fixes for ticket 4139, which seem to be applied to 3.1.3 assert that they resolve the problem in 4150. Using 3.1.4 on x86 I still have the same problem. For

[sage-devel] Re: Coercing permutation group elements

2008-10-30 Thread mabshoff
Rob Beezer wrote: H i, > I reported a problem multiplying permutation group elements, which > became a Trac ticket (http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/ > 4150). Fixes for ticket 4139, which seem to be applied to 3.1.3 > assert that they resolve the problem in 4150. > > Using 3.1.4 on x86

[sage-devel] Re: Coercing permutation group elements

2008-10-30 Thread mabshoff
Sorry for the double post: * #4105 is still open, so I would not expect your bug to be fixed :) * #4138 was a general cleanup of PermutationGroups which has been merged and claims to fix #4105, but it does not. So in the end someone needs to fix #4105. Cheers, Michael --~--~-~--~---

[sage-devel] Re: Coercing permutation group elements

2008-10-30 Thread Rob Beezer
Michael, Thanks for the assistance with finding my way. ;-) Rob On Oct 30, 8:11 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry for the double post: > >  * #4105 is still open, so I would not expect your bug to be fixed :) >  * #4138 was a general cleanup of PermutationGroups which has been >

[sage-devel] Re: Talk slides, feedback appreciated

2008-10-30 Thread Dan Drake
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 at 01:26PM -0700, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > Yep. One thing that struck me is that the title is "around the world" > and there's no world map. I agree, if you say "around the world", there should be a world map, not just a most-of-the-continental-US map, western Europe map, and s

[sage-devel] Re: Talk slides, feedback appreciated

2008-10-30 Thread Minh Nguyen
Dan Drake wrote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 at 01:26PM -0700, Robert Bradshaw wrote: >> Yep. One thing that struck me is that the title is "around the world" >> and there's no world map. > > I agree, if you say "around the world", there should be a world map, not > just a most-of-the-continental-US ma