[sage-devel] Sage 3.0.2.rc0 released!

2008-05-23 Thread mabshoff
Hello folks, this is 3.0.2.rc0, the likely final release of the 3.0.2 series and hopefully next to identical to the final 3.0.2. What is new? * Franco Saliola and Peter Jipsen's posets and semi-lattive patch * Robert Miller's self-orthogonal binary codes * Bjarke Hammersholt Roune's Frobby

[sage-devel] Graph planarity

2008-05-23 Thread Robert Bradshaw
Is there any reason why John Boyer's planarity code isn't an spkg? - Robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group a

[sage-devel] Re: matrices with no ring specified default to QQ if the elements are all integers

2008-05-23 Thread John Cremona
I vote for Proposal B. John On May 21, 10:02 pm, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wow! In that case I revise my viewpoint on this matter. That's > > really interesting. It is amazing how many things in Sage were > > written to make Sage easier for "random undergrads", but turn >

[sage-devel] Re: progress on Maxima + ECL

2008-05-23 Thread Robert Dodier
mabshoff wrote: > Out of curiosity: Did you take today's CVS since the anon ecl CVS > trees were corrupted until about two, three hours ago? I am working with ECL built from anonymous CVS from around May 14. I haven't been able to update from CVS since then; apparently the anonymous CVS server w

[sage-devel] Re: Cubic to Weierstrass

2008-05-23 Thread Bill Hart
I attach some Pari code which computes various things, including Nagell's algorithm, including forward and reverse transforms. Accompanying it is some test code which attempts to verify that the inverse transform does what it is supposed to, i.e. it composes with the forward transform to give the

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.2.rc0 released!

2008-05-23 Thread mabshoff
On May 23, 10:42 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello folks, > > this is 3.0.2.rc0, the likely final release of the 3.0.2 series > and hopefully next to identical to the final 3.0.2. What is new? > >  * Franco Saliola and Peter Jipsen's posets and semi-lattive >    patch >  * Robert M

[sage-devel] Re: Graph planarity

2008-05-23 Thread mabshoff
On May 23, 12:55 pm, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Robert, > Is there any reason why John Boyer's planarity code isn't an spkg? It was submitted as a patch and included in the library tree. Is there any specific reason it should be in its own spkg? One reason I could imagine is

[sage-devel] Re: Graph planarity

2008-05-23 Thread Gary Furnish
+1. Planarity is a mess of non Cython files that are included in the main tree and should probably be compiled as a library. On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:05 AM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 23, 12:55 pm, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Hi Robert, > >> Is there any

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.2.rc0 released!

2008-05-23 Thread John Cremona
Michael, I just built rc0 and will test it -- but where should I be when I type "hg update -C" ? John 2008/5/23 mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > On May 23, 10:42 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hello folks, >> >> this is 3.0.2.rc0, the likely final release of the 3.0.2 serie

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.2.rc0 released!

2008-05-23 Thread mabshoff
On May 23, 5:28 pm, "John Cremona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael, > > I just built rc0 and will test it -- but where should I be when I type >  "hg update -C"  ? > > John Hi John, that is in $SAGE_ROOT/local/bin after sourcing local/bin/sage_env from $SAGE_ROOT. Before runnign "hg updat

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.2.rc0 released!

2008-05-23 Thread John Cremona
Thanks, that worked as advertised. I'm doing --testall on rc0 anyway now. John 2008/5/23 mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > On May 23, 5:28 pm, "John Cremona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Michael, >> >> I just built rc0 and will test it -- but where should I be when I type >> "hg update -C

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.2.rc0 released!

2008-05-23 Thread David Joyner
Builds fine on an amd phenom machine running hardy heron but sage -testall freezes at sage -t devel/sage/sage/dsage/__init__.py (skipping) -- nodoctest.py file in directory sage -t devel/sage/sage/dsage/tests/testdoc.py + On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:4

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.2.rc0 released!

2008-05-23 Thread mabshoff
On May 23, 6:09 pm, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Builds fine on an amd phenom machine running hardy heron but sage -testall > freezes at > > sage -t  devel/sage/sage/dsage/__init__.py (skipping) -- nodoctest.py > file in directory > sage -t  devel/sage/sage/dsage/tests/testdoc.py

[sage-devel] Re: matrices with no ring specified default to QQ if the elements are all integers

2008-05-23 Thread Michel
For what it's worth, I prefer B. Michel On May 23, 3:17 pm, John Cremona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I vote for Proposal B. > > John > > On May 21, 10:02 pm, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Wow! In that case I revise my viewpoint on this matter. That's > > > really interest

[sage-devel] Re: matrices with no ring specified default to QQ if the elements are all integers

2008-05-23 Thread Jason Grout
Jason Grout wrote: > In the recent discussion "Change the default base_ring for matrices from > ZZ to QQ", there were lots of opinions shared, and William summarized > some feelings from the group, but it wasn't a solid conclusion (at > least, based on an IRC conversation, William is rethinking

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.2.rc0 released!

2008-05-23 Thread John Cremona
All tests passed! with rc0 + the dsage fix manually applied. John 2008/5/23 mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > On May 23, 6:09 pm, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Builds fine on an amd phenom machine running hardy heron but sage -testall >> freezes at >> >> sage -t devel/sage/s

[sage-devel] Trac #1284

2008-05-23 Thread Robert Miller
Hello, During the last bug day, I found several tickets related to inconsistencies in abelian groups. I think I've fixed the circular logic, etc. causing the problems in the patch included in #1284. However, there is a difference of opinion on notation that I need to ask about here. Q: Should th

[sage-devel] Re: Trac #1284

2008-05-23 Thread Nick Alexander
> Q: Should the output of > sage: G <= H > for G and H abelian groups be whether G is a subgroup of H? I say yes, this is a useful notation. > If you have a list of > abelian groups L = [G1,...,Gn], and you want to quickly sort it What is a "sorted list of groups"? Sorted by what? If the use

[sage-devel] Re: Trac #1284

2008-05-23 Thread John Cremona
We should maintain consistency with other algebraic structures. If G<=H means "G is a subgroup of H" when G and H are groups, then I would similarly expect <= to mean "is a subspace of" for vector spaces, etc. Some of these cases might be hard (number fields?); so if the functionality is not (ye

[sage-devel] Re: Trac #1284

2008-05-23 Thread David Joyner
I agree with Nick and John. On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Robert Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > During the last bug day, I found several tickets related to > inconsistencies in abelian groups. I think I've fixed the circular > logic, etc. causing the problems in the patch in

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.2.rc0 released!

2008-05-23 Thread mabshoff
On May 23, 6:44 pm, "John Cremona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All tests passed! with rc0 + the dsage fix manually applied. > > John Cool, I have released http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mabshoff/release-cycles-3.0.2/sage-3.0.2.rc2.tar which fixes three issues: #3279: Michael Abshoff:

[sage-devel] Trac #3276 + Maxima-isms

2008-05-23 Thread Gary Furnish
With the symbolics rewrite moving quickly, I'd like to request that if possible people try to avoid adding more "Maxima-isms" to sage.calculus. Specifically, if functionality is being added, please try to keep it "general" in that the design of the functionality is not dictated by what Maxima doe

[sage-devel] Re: matrices with no ring specified default to QQ if the elements are all integers

2008-05-23 Thread William Stein
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jason Grout wrote: >> In the recent discussion "Change the default base_ring for matrices from >> ZZ to QQ", there were lots of opinions shared, and William summarized >> some feelings from the group, but it wasn't a solid

[sage-devel] Re: Trac #1284

2008-05-23 Thread John Cremona
Following on from Nick's point, I cannot imagine that users will want or expect to sort a list of groups except possibly by some criterion provided by the user (e.g. size of the group, or something). But apart from that we need to be able to have a default sorting or more or less anything in Sage

[sage-devel] Re: raw picture manipulation [gd library and sage?]

2008-05-23 Thread boothby
What I'm doing is very simple. I've written a wrapper for the gd library, which allows me direct and *unsafe* access to the image data. All I have right now is functions to fetch a matrix from the red, green, and blue channels to a matrix, and dump data from matrices into said channels. Ev

[sage-devel] Re: Trac #1284

2008-05-23 Thread Bjake Hammersholt Roune
I expect <= to be a total order, so I prefer is_subgroup. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.goog

[sage-devel] Re: Trac #1284

2008-05-23 Thread Gary Furnish
I agree, which is why I supported making some sort of canonical_comparison method for output, and then using <= for subgroup. On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:36 AM, John Cremona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Following on from Nick's point, I cannot imagine that users will want > or expect to sort a l

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.2.rc0 released!

2008-05-23 Thread John Cremona
Everything builds and tests ok out of the box for me with rc2: All tests passed! Total time for all tests: 2622.9 seconds Please see /home/jec/sage-3.0.2.rc2/tmp/test.log for the complete log from this test. John 2008/5/23 mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > On May 23, 6:44 pm, "John Cremona"

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.2.rc0 released!

2008-05-23 Thread Jaap Spies
mabshoff wrote: > > > On May 23, 6:44 pm, "John Cremona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> All tests passed! with rc0 + the dsage fix manually applied. >> >> John > > Cool, I have released > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mabshoff/release-cycles-3.0.2/sage-3.0.2.rc2.tar > > which fixes th

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.2.rc0 released!

2008-05-23 Thread Jaap Spies
Jaap Spies wrote: > mabshoff wrote: >> >> On May 23, 6:44 pm, "John Cremona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> All tests passed! with rc0 + the dsage fix manually applied. >>> >>> John >> Cool, I have released >> >> http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mabshoff/release-cycles-3.0.2/sage-3.0.2.rc2.tar

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.2.rc0 released!

2008-05-23 Thread Jaap Spies
Jaap Spies wrote: > mabshoff wrote: >> >> On May 23, 6:44 pm, "John Cremona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> All tests passed! with rc0 + the dsage fix manually applied. >>> >>> John >> Cool, I have released >> >> http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mabshoff/release-cycles-3.0.2/sage-3.0.2.rc2.tar

[sage-devel] Re: Graph planarity

2008-05-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> While we are at it: Somebody please change the license notes in the > code from Apache to GPL since the code was relicensed, but that is not > reflected in the actual source code. > Actually, it is not released under GPL. It's currently licensed under Apache 2.0, which is GPL compatible. It

[sage-devel] Re: Graph planarity

2008-05-23 Thread Mike Hansen
> Actually, it is not released under GPL. It's currently licensed under > Apache 2.0, which is GPL compatible. It had previously been under > Boyer's personal license. The Apache 2.0 license is not compatible with GPLv2. I believe during Sage Days 7, he released it (at least to Sage) under the

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.2.rc0 released!

2008-05-23 Thread David Joyner
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:16 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On May 23, 6:44 pm, "John Cremona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> All tests passed! with rc0 + the dsage fix manually applied. >> >> John > > Cool, I have released > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mabshoff/release-

[sage-devel] Re: Graph planarity

2008-05-23 Thread William Stein
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Mike Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Actually, it is not released under GPL. It's currently licensed under >> Apache 2.0, which is GPL compatible. It had previously been under >> Boyer's personal license. > > The Apache 2.0 license is not compatible with G

[sage-devel] Re: Graph planarity

2008-05-23 Thread William Stein
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:43 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Mike Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Actually, it is not released under GPL. It's currently licensed under >>> Apache 2.0, which is GPL compatible. It had previously been under >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.2.rc0 released!

2008-05-23 Thread Gary Furnish
#3291 fixes this issue and will be merged in RC3/Release in case anyone else is having this iissue On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jaap Spies wrote: >> mabshoff wrote: >>> >>> On May 23, 6:44 pm, "John Cremona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All tests p

[sage-devel] Sage 3.0.2.rc3 released!

2008-05-23 Thread mabshoff
Hello folks, here we go with 3.0.2.rc3. It is basically a bunch of bug fixes for rlm's codes code that had a couple small issues left ;) In addition there is one pbuild issue fix that Jaap encountered and that in the past was also hit by David Joyner. Sources are at http://sage.math.washington.e

[sage-devel]

2008-05-23 Thread Nick Alexander
Does anyone else find the printing of 0 below inconsistent? sage: CC(0) 0 sage: RR(0) 0.000 sage: CC Complex Field with 53 bits of precision sage: RR Real Field with 53 bits of precision It doesn't always happen: sage: RR(2) 2.00 sage: CC(2) 2.00 sage: versio

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel]

2008-05-23 Thread William Stein
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone else find the printing of 0 below inconsistent? > > sage: CC(0) > 0 > sage: RR(0) > 0.000 Yes, I agree that this is inconsistent and should be changed. Probably the right change would be: sage