Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upstream projects

2011-09-18 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Dear Marteen, On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 03:17:38PM -0700, Maarten Derickx wrote: >On Tuesday, September 6, 2011 4:47:22 PM UTC+2, Nicolas M. ThiA(c)ry >wrote: > > Actually that post highlights quite well our motivations for switching > development model from a library on t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upstream projects

2011-09-06 Thread Maarten Derickx
On Tuesday, September 6, 2011 4:47:22 PM UTC+2, Nicolas M. Thiéry wrote: > > Actually that post highlights quite well our motivations for switching > development model from a library on top of a system (as was > MuPAD-Combinat w.r.t. MuPAD) to a bunch of patches, most of whom are > intended to be

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upstream projects

2011-09-06 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 03:09:31AM -0700, Maarten Derickx wrote: >I'm also curious for wich project sage is considered upstream, of course >there is psage but are there any others? Sage-Combinat? Actually that post highlights quite well our motivations for switching development model from

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upstream projects

2011-09-05 Thread Francois Bissey
> On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 07:32 +0200, Julien Puydt wrote: > Python is up to version 3.2.2 which is incompatible with 2.7. > Plus, there is no standard for the language. It is clear that > Sage is losing ground on the upstream development path. What > happens when the python-based spkgs, such as SciP

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upstream projects

2011-09-05 Thread Maarten Derickx
On Monday, September 5, 2011 8:29:46 AM UTC+2, TimDaly wrote: > > I see Sage efforts to keep up with OS changes (e.g. Lion) and > package changes (e.g. Maxima) but I am unaware of any work > to keep up with Python. > There are plans to move to python 3.x somewhere in the future (at least I heard

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upstream projects

2011-09-04 Thread daly
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 07:32 +0200, Julien Puydt wrote: > Le 05/09/2011 02:41, leif a écrit : > > One shouldn't upgrade packages just for the sake of higher version > > numbers in Sage though, and there are packages where upgrading is > > indeed non-trivial, because of functional changes in upstream

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upstream projects

2011-09-04 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 05/09/2011 02:41, leif a écrit : One shouldn't upgrade packages just for the sake of higher version numbers in Sage though, and there are packages where upgrading is indeed non-trivial, because of functional changes in upstream, or a lot of changes made by Sage to its current version. I can'

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upstream projects

2011-09-04 Thread Francois Bissey
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 03:09:31 Maarten Derickx wrote: > Nice post. Altough it's really written from a commercial point of view, so > not everything is directly applicable to sage. > > Also I clearly feel how much work it takes to get, "a small fix" merged > upstream is very dependent on the particul