[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-28 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2009-Sep-27 06:32:41 -0700, Marmaduke wrote: >I learned most useful things from the Info pages on coreutils. Maybe >these can be rendered to html because they come from Texinfo? I'd strongly recommend against using the coreutils or bash info files as a basis for learning Unix. Virtually all G

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-27 Thread John Cremona
2009/9/27 William Stein : ey learn is Linux. > > Carlo posted this a few messages back: > >   http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/ > > I flipped through it a bit, and it looks excellent.  And moreover, I think it > does a great job of emphasizing the difference between UNIX and "Linux". > It

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-27 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:24 PM, ahmet alper parker wrote: > > This is just a recommandation on the topic. Personally, i don' believe > if someoneone try to learn linux/unix/minix (whatever you call) will > learn it  correctly from the available online literature. Generally, > they have a misunde

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-27 Thread ahmet alper parker
This is just a recommandation on the topic. Personally, i don' believe if someoneone try to learn linux/unix/minix (whatever you call) will learn it correctly from the available online literature. Generally, they have a misunderstanding that everything they learn is Linux. Maybe writing something

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-27 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sep 27, 3:32 pm, Marmaduke wrote: > I learned most useful things from the Info pages on coreutils. Maybe > these can be rendered to html because they come from Texinfo? look here: http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/ h --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-27 Thread Carlo Hamalainen
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 9:12 PM, William Stein wrote: > Are there any amazingly good freely available introductions to basic > command line UNIX that people recommend.  I've noticed that many > people (often young students raised on Windows) who really want to > work on Sage don't know anything a

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-27 Thread Marmaduke
I learned most useful things from the Info pages on coreutils. Maybe these can be rendered to html because they come from Texinfo? On Sep 26, 7:12 pm, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > Are there any amazingly good freely available introductions to basic > command line UNIX that people recommend.  I

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-26 Thread Marshall Hampton
Oh, no, sorry - somehow I skipped over the "freely available" part your request. My apologies. -Marshall On Sep 26, 6:15 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Marshall Hampton wrote: > > > One can do worse than "Unix for Dummies". > > Is it available for free online? For

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-26 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Marshall Hampton wrote: > > One can do worse than "Unix for Dummies". Is it available for free online? For my purposes, that is a bare minimum requirement. -- William >  I can't really review it > effectively, since I knew most of what's in it before getting i

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-26 Thread lutusp
On Sep 26, 12:12 pm, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > Are there any amazingly good freely available introductions to basic > command line UNIX that people recommend.  I've noticed that many > people (often young students raised on Windows) who really want to > work on Sage don't know anything about

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-26 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sep 26, 9:12 pm, William Stein wrote: > Are there any amazingly good freely available introductions to basic > command line UNIX that people recommend. This fall I'm teaching an introduction lecture to Linux ... the problem is, that you also have to explain the basics. One book I came across

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-26 Thread Marshall Hampton
One can do worse than "Unix for Dummies". I can't really review it effectively, since I knew most of what's in it before getting it, but it seems pretty good for a total newbie. What was very helpful to me after I learned some basics was O'Reilly's Unix Power Tools, but that might be overwhelmin

[sage-devel] Re: unix

2009-09-26 Thread gsw
Hi William, on Cygwin.org (see "http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ov-ex-win.html";), they recommend to search for "UNIX basics" and "UNIX tutorial". Doing so yields e.g.: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/ where you can find a browser- or offline-readable "UNIX Tutorial for Beginners", whi