Re: [sage-devel] Re: torrent question

2011-11-24 Thread William Stein
On Nov 24, 2011 12:34 PM, "Harald Schilly" wrote: > > > > On Monday, November 21, 2011 4:42:25 PM UTC+1, William wrote: >> >> how much work would it be to make it so we also offer >> torrent seeds? > > > With Keshav's idea, it was just a bit more than two hours. > > Everyone is welcome to test the

[sage-devel] Re: torrent question

2011-11-24 Thread Harald Schilly
On Monday, November 21, 2011 4:42:25 PM UTC+1, William wrote: > > how much work would it be to make it so we also offer > torrent seeds? > With Keshav's idea, it was just a bit more than two hours. Everyone is welcome to test them here: http://sagemath.org/mirror/torrents.html I've tried 3 cl

Re: [sage-devel] Re: torrent question

2011-11-23 Thread Keshav Kini
That looks promising. User jordan on #transmission (freenode) said he will work on implementing web seed in `transmission-create`, the utility for creating .torrent files which comes with Transmission. See https://trac.transmissionbt.com/ticket/4645 (not that this is of great importance as we

Re: [sage-devel] Re: torrent question

2011-11-23 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 02:48, Keshav Kini wrote: > As for actually generating the .torrent files with web seed info in them, T I found a tool called "mktorrent" that has this webseed feature (in init.c, it is possible to add them via repeated -w arguments [1]). I'll look into this but having to

[sage-devel] Re: torrent question

2011-11-22 Thread Keshav Kini
Transmission ( http://transmissionbt.com/ ) is, I believe, a popular choice these days, since the official BitTorrent client went closed-source a few years back. It can be run as a daemon. I also found a useful-looking thing named PHP-tracker ( http://php-tracker.org/ ). As for actually generat

[sage-devel] Re: torrent question

2011-11-22 Thread Harald Schilly
On Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:49:54 AM UTC+1, Keshav Kini wrote: > > The good news is that the .torrent file format already supports "web > seeds" (since a few years ago) which as the name suggests allow you to put > an HTTP URI inside the .torrent file as a web-based seed ... > Interesting.

[sage-devel] Re: torrent question

2011-11-22 Thread Keshav Kini
I disagree that metalinks are "better" than torrents. Metalinks may be standardized but bittorrent clients do not care about them and most people don't have a program that can download metalinks (at least in 2011), whereas almost everyone (in my experience) has a bittorrent client. The good new

[sage-devel] Re: torrent question

2011-11-21 Thread Harald Schilly
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 17:23, William Stein wrote: > That's fantastic.  I should learn about metalinks -- I'm clueless > about them.  Thanks. Yes ;-) They are even standardized now: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5854 Basically, they contain a list of hashes and a list of source URLs. There is

[sage-devel] Re: torrent question

2011-11-21 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Harald Schilly wrote: > Hi, I always create those metalinks. They work just like torrents, but > use the usual http and ftp mirrors as "seeds" and hence don't depend > on others uploading from their computers. That's fantastic. I should learn about metalinks -- I

[sage-devel] Re: torrent question

2011-11-21 Thread Harald Schilly
Hi, I always create those metalinks. They work just like torrents, but use the usual http and ftp mirrors as "seeds" and hence don't depend on others uploading from their computers. The problem with only seeding via torrents is, that nobody is uploading (Sage simply doesn't have the critical mass o