Hi,
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Gary Furnish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe. I see two real issues.
> 1) Sage right now has really bad global namespace pollution issues that make
> it very hard to import just one or two files. I don't see why this
> shouldn't be fixable, it just needs s
I think it is entirely possible that fixing import problems may have to come
at the expense of ease of use. I don't see rings.basic helping much. I
envision grand discussions about what constitutes a basic ring and what
should and should not be included. What happens if we still have issues
afte
On Apr 1, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Gary Furnish wrote:
> Why not use import sage.rings.integer_ring as module_integer_ring.
> If the location changes, just change what it is imported as.
I think the point is that re-arranging the rings directory should
have minimal impact outside of it. This is one
Why not use import sage.rings.integer_ring as module_integer_ring. If the
location changes, just change what it is imported as.
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Robert Bradshaw <
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> On Apr 1, 2008, at 1:50 PM, William Stein wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 1:36 PM,
On Apr 1, 2008, at 1:50 PM, William Stein wrote:
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> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Robert Bradshaw
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Gary Furnish wrote:
>>> Wierd circular import issues can (should) be solved with circular
>>> cdef imports. I think the easiest fix
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Robert Bradshaw
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Apr 1, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Gary Furnish wrote:
> > Wierd circular import issues can (should) be solved with circular
> > cdef imports. I think the easiest fix to crazy deps (group theory
> > on calculus) might be
On Apr 1, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Gary Furnish wrote:
> Wierd circular import issues can (should) be solved with circular
> cdef imports. I think the easiest fix to crazy deps (group theory
> on calculus) might be to do something alone the lines of
> foo = None
> def importcrazydeps():
> global
Wierd circular import issues can (should) be solved with circular cdef
imports. I think the easiest fix to crazy deps (group theory on calculus)
might be to do something alone the lines of
foo = None
def importcrazydeps():
import sage.foo as localfoo
foo = localfoo
Then have sage.x.package
On Apr 1, 11:23 am, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Apr 1, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Nick Alexander wrote:
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> > On 1-Apr-08, at 10:36 AM, Gary Furnish wrote:
>
> >> Right now pulling in group theory may end up pulling in calculus.
> >> There are similar issues all over with really tight
On Apr 1, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Nick Alexander wrote:
> On 1-Apr-08, at 10:36 AM, Gary Furnish wrote:
>
>> Right now pulling in group theory may end up pulling in calculus.
>> There are similar issues all over with really tight coupling
>> between subsystems. It ought to be possible to use group th
On Apr 1, 7:21 pm, "Gary Furnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2) Every cython file compiles to an separate dll, dramatically increasing
> used space. This would require a change to cython to fix, but ought to be
> doable. Maybe space is not as big of an issue as ease of use though.
Are you s
On 1-Apr-08, at 10:36 AM, Gary Furnish wrote:
> Right now pulling in group theory may end up pulling in calculus.
> There are similar issues all over with really tight coupling
> between subsystems. It ought to be possible to use group theory
> (maybe without a feature or two) without ca
Right now pulling in group theory may end up pulling in calculus. There are
similar issues all over with really tight coupling between subsystems. It
ought to be possible to use group theory (maybe without a feature or two)
without calculus and vice versa.
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Nick A
On 1-Apr-08, at 10:21 AM, Gary Furnish wrote:
> Maybe. I see two real issues.
> 1) Sage right now has really bad global namespace pollution issues
> that make it very hard to import just one or two files. I don't
> see why this shouldn't be fixable, it just needs someone to work on
> it.
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Sage motivation is to create a viable alternative to Ma*.
>
> There are also people, who don't need an alternative to Ma*, but
> rather a good library, read for example this email from Gael:
>
> http://groups
Maybe. I see two real issues.
1) Sage right now has really bad global namespace pollution issues that make
it very hard to import just one or two files. I don't see why this
shouldn't be fixable, it just needs someone to work on it. This would not
be that hard, and would probably catch some subt
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