Re: [sage-devel] Re: Some questions about Sage goals

2009-11-22 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
cool-RR wrote: > I understand it's a volunteer project, and there's a lot of work involved. > > But it seems that we weren't talking exactly about the same thing: I > didn't talk about porting the millions of lines of code to Windows; I > talked about making the VM process automatic and seamles

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Some questions about Sage goals

2009-11-22 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:07 AM, cool-RR wrote: > I understand it's a volunteer project, and there's a lot of work involved. > But it seems that we weren't talking exactly about the same thing: I didn't > talk about porting the millions of lines of code to Windows; I talked about > making the VM p

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Some questions about Sage goals

2009-11-22 Thread cool-RR
> > > > > > Okay, update: > > > > Now I downloaded Sage for Windows. I see that I have to download the > > VirtualBox thing and install it-- Pretty annoying. It would have been > > nice if you just gave me one file to run which would run virtualbox by > > itself with the sage image loaded. And now

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Some questions about Sage goals

2009-11-21 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 5:51 AM, cool-RR wrote: > > > On Nov 19, 5:55 pm, Harald Schilly wrote: >> On Nov 19, 7:37 am, Jan Groenewald wrote: >> >> > Is VMWARE outdated >> > and virtualbox recommended? >> >> There is no vmware image. The vmware instructions are just for >> reference and they were

[sage-devel] Re: Some questions about Sage goals

2009-11-21 Thread cool-RR
On Nov 19, 5:55 pm, Harald Schilly wrote: > On Nov 19, 7:37 am, Jan Groenewald wrote: > > > Is VMWARE outdated > > and virtualbox recommended? > > There is no vmware image. The vmware instructions are just for > reference and they were used some time ago. > > But you do not need them at all. If

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Some questions about Sage goals

2009-11-19 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Harald Schilly wrote: > On Nov 19, 7:37 am, Jan Groenewald wrote: >> Is VMWARE outdated >> and virtualbox recommended? > > There is no vmware image. The vmware instructions are just for > reference and they were used some time ago. > > But you do not need them at

[sage-devel] Re: Some questions about Sage goals

2009-11-19 Thread Jason Grout
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > cool-RR wrote: >> I understand that you have to run Sage as a sort of server. I remember >> I had to use VMWare. And then you access it from the browser, and it's >> an AJAX thing that makes it behave like a notebook. >> >> Why? Why not something like Mathematica, where yo

[sage-devel] Re: Some questions about Sage goals

2009-11-19 Thread Harald Schilly
On Nov 19, 6:20 am, cool-RR wrote: > Why? Why not something like Mathematica, where you just open a normal > program and have a place where you can just type text? The simple answer is, that it is much easier to build a webservice like that, than building a GUI. There are several benefits with th

[sage-devel] Re: Some questions about Sage goals

2009-11-19 Thread Harald Schilly
On Nov 19, 7:37 am, Jan Groenewald wrote: > Is VMWARE outdated > and virtualbox recommended? There is no vmware image. The vmware instructions are just for reference and they were used some time ago. But you do not need them at all. If you download the virtualbox image, you have a zip file. Extr

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Some questions about Sage goals

2009-11-18 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:05:05PM -0800, cool-RR wrote: > > As SAGE is unix based, the VMware is necessary to run on a windows > > platform. Consider a user friendly Linux distribution like Ubuntu > > or whatever is common where you work/study, as you can then run > > SAGE natively. > > I don

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Some questions about Sage goals

2009-11-18 Thread Mike Hansen
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:05 PM, cool-RR wrote: > I don't understand. Imagine a non-computer-savvy scientist who uses > Windows and wants to use Sage. I imagine this is a pretty big > percentage of scientists. Are you telling him, "To use Sage you must > operate a VM, or switch operating system"?

[sage-devel] Re: Some questions about Sage goals

2009-11-18 Thread cool-RR
> > As SAGE is unix based, the VMware is necessary to run on a windows > platform. Consider a user friendly Linux distribution like Ubuntu > or whatever is common where you work/study, as you can then run > SAGE natively. I don't understand. Imagine a non-computer-savvy scientist who uses Windows