[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-13 Thread Bill Hart
William Stein wrote: > Hello, > > If you would like, you could help me make a precise list of SAGE > development machines that I should buy, by editing this wiki > page (or emailing me): > > http://sage.math.washington.edu:9001/hardware Just in case they are being considered, laptops are a bad i

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-13 Thread Jaap Spies
William Stein wrote: > > > Does anybody on sage-devel want to volunteer to help with this > upgrading of linux distros on a virtual internal machine, when > it ever gets created? :-) > As I am retired, I do have time(?) and can do almost as much as I please. I could volonteer, but during the

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-13 Thread William Stein
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:17:35 -0800, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> All SAGE developers would have accounts on all these machines, >> and they would be used for: >> >>(1) building binaries >> >>(2) benchmarking algorithms and code >> > > One other point. It is not only a questi

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-13 Thread William Stein
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:07:31 -0800, Jason Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Another consideration, since you've already decided on a Mac Pro, is > to get Parallels (a commerical virtualization package for OS X). It > will allow you to run all the Linux and Windows Distributions you want >

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-13 Thread Jaap Spies
William Stein wrote: > If you would like, you could help me make a precise list of SAGE > development machines that I should buy, by editing this wiki > page (or emailing me): > > http://sage.math.washington.edu:9001/hardware > > All SAGE developers would have accounts on all these machines, >

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-13 Thread Jason Martin
Another consideration, since you've already decided on a Mac Pro, is to get Parallels (a commerical virtualization package for OS X). It will allow you to run all the Linux and Windows Distributions you want on the Mac Pro. Plus, if you wait until late Jan. to purchase the machine, it will proba

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-13 Thread Fernando Perez
On 12/13/06, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No. But timing and performance are primarily hardware issues > not flavor-of-linux issues. Vmware would *only* be used to > provide access to a range of Linux disributions for build testing > (and this could already be set up on sage.math)

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-13 Thread William Stein
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:57:11 -0800, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not sure about VMware. One advantage to laptops is that, because > of the number of student developers in the UW area, they could be used > as loaners as well. I do not think laptops are suitable for creating a

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-13 Thread boothby
> I agree completely with Yi. The point of purchasing machines is to test > different hardware platforms. For different OS installs, we just need > to use some virtualization software. That said, I tried pretty hard to > setup VMWare server once and failed miserably. If anybody (especially >

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-13 Thread David Joyner
I'm not sure about VMware. One advantage to laptops is that, because of the number of student developers in the UW area, they could be used as loaners as well. Also, I've heard rumors that vista does not play nice with dual boots. Also, William used the word "dedicated". Will a big machine runnin

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:40:26 -0800, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't even know that you'd need virtualization--just have dual/ > triple/n-boot machines. Yuck. The point of the hardware is that people have regular remote access to a range of computing environments. Forcin

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-12 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Dec 12, 2006, at 9:32 PM, William Stein wrote: > On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:26:05 -0800, Yi Qiang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 12/12/06, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> IMHO, it is also important to test specific flavors of linux >>> (eg, debian, redhat, freeBSD) and windows

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:26:05 -0800, Yi Qiang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12/12/06, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> IMHO, it is also important to test specific flavors of linux >> (eg, debian, redhat, freeBSD) and windows types (windows XP, >> vista). Laptops could probably be

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-12 Thread Yi Qiang
On 12/12/06, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMHO, it is also important to test specific flavors of linux > (eg, debian, redhat, freeBSD) and windows types (windows XP, > vista). Laptops could probably be used for this. > Wouldn't something like VMWare Server on a reasonably powerful m

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-12 Thread David Joyner
IMHO, it is also important to test specific flavors of linux (eg, debian, redhat, freeBSD) and windows types (windows XP, vista). Laptops could probably be used for this. On 12/12/06, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > If you would like, you could help me make a precise list