This is the amazing thing about Sage and an attribute of good
software: you don't need to understand every detail in order to use it
productively. And it motivates you to learn more and explore unknown
fields such as mathematics. :)
I just spoke to a Geography professor who said that it would be
Hi Jason,
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Jason Grout
wrote:
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> Minh Nguyen wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Maurizio
>> wrote:
>>> I don't get it...
>>>
>>> how should this make SAGE easier? From my point of view, I don't even
>>> remember anymore (my bad I know) what a ring repr
Minh Nguyen wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Maurizio wrote:
>> I don't get it...
>>
>> how should this make SAGE easier? From my point of view, I don't even
>> remember anymore (my bad I know) what a ring represent, but this is
>> not slowing down my SAGE learning, I think.
>>
>> But w
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Maurizio wrote:
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> I don't get it...
>
> how should this make SAGE easier? From my point of view, I don't even
> remember anymore (my bad I know) what a ring represent, but this is
> not slowing down my SAGE learning, I think.
>
> But what if tomorrow or the day
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Maurizio wrote:
>
> I don't get it...
>
> how should this make SAGE easier? From my point of view, I don't even
> remember anymore (my bad I know) what a ring represent, but this is
> not slowing down my SAGE learning, I think.
>
> But what if tomorrow or the day
I don't get it...
how should this make SAGE easier? From my point of view, I don't even
remember anymore (my bad I know) what a ring represent, but this is
not slowing down my SAGE learning, I think.
But what if tomorrow or the day after, I do need those?
I'm sorry, I just don't get the point o
I think that you probably miss the point. Most engineers are not
trained in number theory, group theory, advanced algebra, etc. Leaving
these parts out of Sage would potentially make it easier to use. But
then maybe the engineer should use Maxima, or one of those other
systems that either ignore
I am an example for someone that does use both modes. I do symbolic
derivations and transformations and then apply them to data, so I fancy
a system where both symbolic evaluations and numerical approximations
can be done transparently. If one is only interested in numerical
evaluations, why n
> It's all about acquiring a bigger audience in the applied fields.
> There is certainly the impression out there that Sage is MAINLY a CAS
> system (as opposed to a numerical system), and more geared towards
> pure mathematicians than engineers, physicists, and applied
> scientists. A separate an
You all make good points. Certainly more documentation for applied
stuff is called for, and I really like the idea of a configuration
command to avert having to maintain a separate version. Didn't even
think of that!
As regards size, I do think that it would be an important factor. I am
much mor
Minh Nguyen wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Jaap Spies wrote:
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>
>
>>> On a note related to the Scilab <---> Sage interface, there's an
>>> experimental spkg up on trac. See ticket #4821 at
>>>
>>> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/4821
>>>
>>> But the Scilab version for the
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Jaap Spies wrote:
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>> On a note related to the Scilab <---> Sage interface, there's an
>> experimental spkg up on trac. See ticket #4821 at
>>
>> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/4821
>>
>> But the Scilab version for the spkg is a bit outdated. Anyone
Minh Nguyen wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Hazem wrote:
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>
>
>>> As regards Scilab and Sage, I think that Ronan Paixão has worked on a
>>> Sage-Scilab interface. From my reading of the Scilab license, I think
>>> it can be legally problematic to include Scilab in Sage, but I'm not
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Hazem wrote:
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>> As regards Scilab and Sage, I think that Ronan Paixão has worked on a
>> Sage-Scilab interface. From my reading of the Scilab license, I think
>> it can be legally problematic to include Scilab in Sage, but I'm not a
>> lawyer. David Joyner kn
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Robert Bradshaw
wrote:
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> One question I have is (1) how dropping omitting things would make it
> easier for engineers and (2) if there are packages that are high
> enough quality and useful for engineers, why having them would hurt
> having them distributed wi
On Mar 22, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Hazem wrote:
> Thank you all for your feedback.
>
> I agree that maintaining anoher version of Sage is probably spreading
> current resources too thin. I was asking to see if this was indeed the
> case. On the other hand, an engineering and physics oriented Sage
> cou
Hazem wrote:
> Since I am alot more familiar with physics/engineering/numerical
> applications, I wonder if you think it would be a good idea to
> maintain a version of Sage geared towards these types of applications,
> especially now that Scilab and Reduce have been released as GPL-
> compatible
On Mar 22, 11:48 pm, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> Hi Hazem,
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:28 AM, Hazem wrote:
>
> > Forgot to add that we would need to include some kind of spreadsheet-
> > like capability, which is quite useful and convenient when one wants
> > to create/edit matrices and arrays.
>
>
Hi Hazem,
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:28 AM, Hazem wrote:
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> Forgot to add that we would need to include some kind of spreadsheet-
> like capability, which is quite useful and convenient when one wants
> to create/edit matrices and arrays.
Yes, there has been discussion about this on sage-devel,
Forgot to add that we would need to include some kind of spreadsheet-
like capability, which is quite useful and convenient when one wants
to create/edit matrices and arrays.
Hazem
On Mar 22, 11:23 pm, Hazem wrote:
> Thank you all for your feedback.
>
> I agree that maintaining anoher version o
Thank you all for your feedback.
I agree that maintaining anoher version of Sage is probably spreading
current resources too thin. I was asking to see if this was indeed the
case. On the other hand, an engineering and physics oriented Sage
could help boost Sage and bring in more resources from a
On Mar 22, 2009, at 9:37 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
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> I don't think that maintaining another version of Sage is the way to
> go at the moment, since many developers have enough on their hands and
> little time to implement them. What I think is appropriate is to write
> a Sage interface to your fa
Hi Maurizio,
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Maurizio wrote:
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> Honestly, I'm not aware of REDUCE capabilities, but I totally share
> Hazem's point of view. Just having a look at that article, I can see
> some interest for us to share (for example) the Z-transform features
> of REDUCE with
Hi Hazem,
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 5:17 AM, Hazem wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> I'm not really familiar with Reduce, and am not a CAS developer. I am
> a kind of "interested observer" and I try to be helpful by collecting
> info about existing CAS systems and ideas and submitting links to the
> experts -
>
> I'm not really familiar with Reduce, and am not a CAS developer. I am
> a kind of "interested observer" and I try to be helpful by collecting
> info about existing CAS systems and ideas and submitting links to the
> experts - you guys.
>
> Since I am alot more familiar with physics/engineering
Hello,
I'm not really familiar with Reduce, and am not a CAS developer. I am
a kind of "interested observer" and I try to be helpful by collecting
info about existing CAS systems and ideas and submitting links to the
experts - you guys.
Since I am alot more familiar with physics/engineering/nume
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Hazem wrote:
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>
> Hello developers,
>
> Just wanted to draw your attention to the fact that REDUCE has been
> released under a modified BSD license. Please see:
>
> http://reduce-algebra.com/
> http://reduce-algebra.sourceforge.net/
> http://www.zib.de/Symbo
Hazem wrote:
>
> Hello developers,
>
> Just wanted to draw your attention to the fact that REDUCE has been
> released under a modified BSD license. Please see:
>
> http://reduce-algebra.com/
> http://reduce-algebra.sourceforge.net/
> http://www.zib.de/Symbolik/reduce/
> http://www.codemist.co.u
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