[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-31 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 31, 11:40 pm, "Ted Kosan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael.wrote: > > > The documentation for each spkg can and will certainly be improved. We > > should stuff that information in the developer's guide (like the > > release manager guide I am currently writing, which will be added > >

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-31 Thread Ted Kosan
Michael.wrote: > The documentation for each spkg can and will certainly be improved. We > should stuff that information in the developer's guide (like the > release manager guide I am currently writing, which will be added > there at some point in time). I think that having guidelines like this

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-30 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 31, 2:15 am, "Ondrej Certik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry for being late to the party, I was afk for a while. > > When I look at the instructions for creating a spkg: > > >http://www.sagemath.org/doc/html/prog/node24.html > > > The first thing that catches my eye is > > > "(b) > >

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-30 Thread Francois
On Dec 31, 1:11 pm, "Ted Kosan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ondrej wrote: > > Nice thing about this is that there is no database, nothing. Just > > plain files, that > > can be fixed by hand. > > > How would portage improve this? > > Portage is just editable text files too. I do not have any e

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-30 Thread Ondrej Certik
> When I look at the instructions for creating a spkg: > > http://www.sagemath.org/doc/html/prog/node24.html > > The first thing that catches my eye is > > "(b) > Put your files in that directory." > > So where do the files come from? I took a spkg at random (readline), Yes, for the sympy spk

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-30 Thread Ted Kosan
Ondrej wrote: > Nice thing about this is that there is no database, nothing. Just > plain files, that > can be fixed by hand. > > How would portage improve this? Portage is just editable text files too. I do not have any experience with Debian so it may also do the following things I describe be

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-30 Thread David Joyner
On Dec 30, 2007 6:14 PM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 30, 2007 11:58 PM, Francois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Dec 31, 1:51 am, "Ondrej Certik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Disclaimer: I am a Debian user, on the way of becoming a Debian Developer >

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-30 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Dec 30, 2007 11:58 PM, Francois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Dec 31, 1:51 am, "Ondrej Certik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Disclaimer: I am a Debian user, on the way of becoming a Debian Developer > > > > I agree with Michael, to keep it simple stupid, as it is now. Maybe with my

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-30 Thread Francois
On Dec 31, 1:51 am, "Ondrej Certik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Disclaimer: I am a Debian user, on the way of becoming a Debian Developer > > I agree with Michael, to keep it simple stupid, as it is now. Maybe with my > a simple improvements I suggested here: > > http://groups.google.com/grou

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-30 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Dec 29, 2007 8:04 AM, François Bissey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Dec 2007, mabshoff wrote: > > Well, if we were to limit ourselves to Linux systems that might be an > > option, but with the need to support OSX and Solaris [and in the > > futute Windows] I don't see this as somethi

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-28 Thread François Bissey
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007, mabshoff wrote: > Well, if we were to limit ourselves to Linux systems that might be an > option, but with the need to support OSX and Solaris [and in the > futute Windows] I don't see this as something viable. Portage is nice, > but it is the wrong tool for a cross platform t

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-28 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 29, 7:33 am, "Ted Kosan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael wrote: > > Well, if we were to limit ourselves to Linux systems that might be an > > option, but with the need to support OSX and Solaris [and in the > > futute Windows] I don't see this as something viable. Portage is nice, >

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-28 Thread Ted Kosan
Michael wrote: > Well, if we were to limit ourselves to Linux systems that might be an > option, but with the need to support OSX and Solaris [and in the > futute Windows] I don't see this as something viable. Portage is nice, > but it is the wrong tool for a cross platform toolchain. What we > c

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-28 Thread William Stein
On Dec 28, 2007 10:11 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> we include in case I am not already on the mailing list :). We should > actually create something like that because if you do not read sage- > devel or sage-support chances are you might miss some release. It is > more and more my impr

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-28 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 27, 9:18 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > What *standard* Sage spkg packages are out of date right now > (I'm skimminghttp://sagemath.org/components.html)? > > * cddlib: we ship 094b, but 094d is current. #1619 > * clisp: we ship clisp-2.41, but 2.43 is current

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-28 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Dec 28, 2007, at 8:28 PM, mabshoff wrote: >> >> We need: >> (a) a wiki page that lists packages with the corresponding >> maintainer. >> (b) A natural system for updating patches. I like your >> suggestion above, >> though _not_ the order. >> (1) Create a trac ticke

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-28 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 28, 8:38 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 28, 2007 3:54 AM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, since nobody has stepped up yet I am volunteering to do this. I can certainly need some help and am more than willing to share those duties. Since I do most

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-28 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 29, 4:52 am, "Ted Kosan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > William wrote: > > What should we do? Any ideas? People who work on Linux distributions, > > please speak up, except for saying "don't bother with Sage, we already > > package everything above in Debian" > > Since Gentoo is a meta L

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-28 Thread Ted Kosan
William wrote: > What should we do? Any ideas? People who work on Linux distributions, > please speak up, except for saying "don't bother with Sage, we already > package everything above in Debian" Since Gentoo is a meta Linux distribution (a distribution which is designed to build custom dis

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-28 Thread David Joyner
On Dec 28, 2007 2:38 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 28, 2007 3:54 AM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Are there some instructions for Sage package maintainers to follow? > > I.e. what exact steps are neede to update the package? > > There are no instructio

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-28 Thread William Stein
On Dec 28, 2007 3:54 AM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are there some instructions for Sage package maintainers to follow? > I.e. what exact steps are neede to update the package? There are no instructions, and no master list of package maintainers, etc. One of the goals of this th

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-28 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Dec 27, 2007 1:55 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Dec 27, 9:18 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > What *standard* Sage spkg packages are out of date right now > > (I'm skimminghttp://sagemath.org/components.html)? > > > > * cddlib: we ship 094b, b

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-27 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 27, 9:18 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > What *standard* Sage spkg packages are out of date right now > (I'm skimminghttp://sagemath.org/components.html)? > > * cddlib: we ship 094b, but 094d is current. > * clisp: we ship clisp-2.41, but 2.43 is current (I'm

[sage-devel] Re: Most Sage spkg's are out of date!

2007-12-27 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 27, 9:18 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > What *standard* Sage spkg packages are out of date right now > (I'm skimminghttp://sagemath.org/components.html)? > > * cddlib: we ship 094b, but 094d is current. > * clisp: we ship clisp-2.41, but 2.43 is current (I'm