Note that I wasn't saying anything about Nathann's opinions, and I even
said that some of them were valuable. We could / should debate many things,
and I think these debates happen (as William pointed out about the name). I
was mostly defending myself against a false accusation as I am part, I
gues
On 09/03/16 13:08, William Stein wrote:
On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 7:05 AM, Vincent Delecroix
<20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote:
One point I think Nathann has right and was not discussed further is the
fact that Sage the distribution is tightly linked to Sage the company. Some
examples:
- the "for
On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 7:05 AM, Vincent Delecroix
<20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One point I think Nathann has right and was not discussed further is the
> fact that Sage the distribution is tightly linked to Sage the company. Some
> examples:
> - the "forced" change of names by William from
Hello,
One point I think Nathann has right and was not discussed further is the
fact that Sage the distribution is tightly linked to Sage the company.
Some examples:
- the "forced" change of names by William from Sage to SageMath when
the company is SageMath Inc.
- websites: sagemath.org for
I don't know you... But I have come to need SMC : I don't use windows !
I was very reluctant to use it because I don't like to work on internet.
But it's such a great application and specially nowadays I can work with
vpython and ivisual ! My wish for so many years and no more windaube ! (lol)
So
Dear all,
I answer this thread only now as I haven't had much time to read sage-devel
these past days.
First, I must say that I feel very offended my Nathann public implication
that by being part of ODK I "build my career on other people's work".
Nathann, I think you have absolutely no idea what
Wow, this whole discussion, and the subsequent thread opened by William
have really blown my mind a little bit.
I disagree with most of the objections raised by Nathann. I have to say
that the impression I got from them at the beginning have changed as the
discussion has evolved and his points
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 02:25:20AM -0800, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>And no, Nicolas is not my employer, by any means. It is true that I am
>paid in part by a grant from which he is paid, too.
Just 2 cents, for the sake of precision: the university Paris Sud is
getting my salary reimbursed fo
> As to the substance of Nathann's comments, most of this is really an
> argument about the GPL, or rather about how many of the potentialities
> in the GPL are acceptable to a given community around a GPL product.
Nathann is not only one thinking this. But at least Brendan McKay has gone
to
> CC-BY-NC would be a good place to look in that case, I guess?
>>
>
>
> This is off-topic, but I just want to point out that an NC license (and
> similar ones) are quite restrictive, maybe more than you would think. You
> cannot use the content on wikipedia (through wikimedia commons), your
>
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:00 AM, Nathann Cohen wrote:
> Hello Karl-Dieter,
>
>> As to the substance of Nathann's comments, most of this is really an
>> argument
>> about the GPL, or rather about how many of the potentialities in the GPL
>> are
>> acceptable to a given community around a GPL produc
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 4:25:41 AM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote:
>
> CC-BY-NC would be a good place to look in that case, I guess?
>
This is off-topic, but I just want to point out that an NC license (and
similar ones) are quite restrictive, maybe more than you would think. You
cannot use
Nathan, I'm glad you posted this so others can see your perspective on
things. It will no doubt be eye opening for some people who just don't
understand where you are coming from.
But as I said, it is your opinion that William is coming in and making
decisions that affect Sage without consultin
Hello Karl-Dieter,
> As to the substance of Nathann's comments, most of this is really an
argument
> about the GPL, or rather about how many of the potentialities in the GPL
are
> acceptable to a given community around a GPL product
This interpretation of my comments, if this is what you proposed
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016, kcrisman wrote:
As to the substance of Nathann's comments, most of this is really an
argument about the GPL, or rather about how many of the potentialities
in the GPL are acceptable to a given community around a GPL product.
Nathann is not only one thinking this. But at l
As to the substance of Nathann's comments, most of this is really an
argument about the GPL, or rather about how many of the potentialities in
the GPL are acceptable to a given community around a GPL product. If you
prefer not to contribute to GPL software, that is your right. But GPL
softwar
Regarding the most recent conversation turn... again, as if it needed to be
said, this is great material for sage-flame.
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On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 9:43:04 AM UTC, Nathann Cohen wrote:
>
> the fact that you made a very successful sale to CNRS of a nicely wrapped
>> in Sage patches product, called "Nathann Cohen, PhD", to a tune of few
>> million euro,
>> (paid is small instalments called "salary")
>> looks
>
> the fact that you made a very successful sale to CNRS of a nicely wrapped
> in Sage patches product, called "Nathann Cohen, PhD", to a tune of few
> million euro,
> (paid is small instalments called "salary")
> looks perfectly OK for you, as this is money going into your bank account,
> righ
On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 7:49:58 AM UTC, Nathann Cohen wrote:
>
> Hello again,
>
> I read your comments and answered some of them. Let's make it simple:
>
> - William, who works at making people confuse Sage with his product
> SageMathCloud (making promotional videos ...)
> - Nicola
Hello again,
I read your comments and answered some of them. Let's make it simple:
- William, who works at making people confuse Sage with his product
SageMathCloud (making promotional videos ...)
- Nicolas and his team, who I haven't actually working on trac for a
while but build their career on
Definitely +1. Thanks for all your work, Nathann.
Jason
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016, 17:12 Nicolas M. Thiery
wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 06:28:46PM -0800, kcrisman wrote:
> >...Though in open source development (at least in open development
> >projects like this one) meaning that some
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 06:28:46PM -0800, kcrisman wrote:
>...Though in open source development (at least in open development
>projects like this one) meaning that sometimes people will hit the road
>over disagreements, everyone should definitely thank Nathann for loads
>and loads
Nathann,
Point taken, loud and clear. But consider boycotting the forum for a while
under protest and returning after a break.
Why sacrifice the things that you enjoy, just to make a point to others.
I'm pretty sure there are lots of people that value your contributions in
this community great
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 9:28 PM, kcrisman wrote:
> I'm not part of this community, yet, may be never, but from my perspective
>> You are welcome "back" any time.
>>
>
> +1
>
> Though in open source development (at least in open development projects
> like this one) meaning that sometimes people w
>
> I'm not part of this community, yet, may be never, but from my perspective
> You are welcome "back" any time.
>
+1
Though in open source development (at least in open development projects
like this one) meaning that sometimes people will hit the road over
disagreements, everyone should de
All the drama and the king's men...
.. can not help me, because wherever I travel, my personal properties and
dreams and beliefs come with me.
Actually, I feel sorry for Your mental pains, but as little as I have seen
from this forum within the last few weeks, I do not see anyone doing any
h
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