[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-23 Thread Martin Albrecht
> That I definitely agree with. I would be very disturbed if we had > a java app that implemented important computational functionality > that is not available from the command line. There was actually > a numerical analysis java applet that is GPL'd that was discussed > here a while ago that wo

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread William Stein
On Jan 22, 2008 4:51 PM, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 22, 2008, at 5:41 AM, mhampton wrote: > > > I think this could be an exciting way to get all the java applet > > makers out there interested in sage, although I don't completely > > understand the architecture of what t

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jan 22, 2008, at 5:41 AM, mhampton wrote: > I think this could be an exciting way to get all the java applet > makers out there interested in sage, although I don't completely > understand the architecture of what this is supposed to do. The way I understand it, JASON is a simple format to se

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread Nick Alexander
On 22-Jan-08, at 6:03 PM, Ted Kosan wrote: > > Justin wrote: > >> It's not true that testing GUIs is in any way impossible (I believe >> several companies make such products, and make a pretty good living >> at it). >> >> However, I don't think there is a freely-available way to do it, and >> in

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread Ted Kosan
Justin wrote: > It's not true that testing GUIs is in any way impossible (I believe > several companies make such products, and make a pretty good living > at it). > > However, I don't think there is a freely-available way to do it, and > in this aspect, your point is well-taken, and reinforces t

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Jan 22, 2008, at 9:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> I think this could be an exciting way to get all the java applet >>> makers out there interested in sage, although I don't completely >>> understand the architecture of what this is supposed to do. >> >> Wouldn't a Java applet imply tha

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Jan 22, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Nick Alexander wrote: > On 22-Jan-08, at 9:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this could be an exciting way to get all the java applet makers out there interested in sage, although I don't completely understand the architecture of what this is supp

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Jan 22, 2008, at 5:54 AM, Martin Albrecht wrote: > >> I think this could be an exciting way to get all the java applet >> makers out there interested in sage, although I don't completely >> understand the architecture of what this is supposed to do. > > Wouldn't a Java applet imply that the f

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread Ted Kosan
William wrote: > I propose the following: > > (1) Json support is made an optional package > (2) Once there are some actual interesting uses of it, then we >seriously consider making it a standard package. (This could >be a week from now, etc.) +1 Ted --~--~-~--~--

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread William Stein
On Jan 22, 2008 5:41 AM, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree - an optional package makes more sense for the moment. The > spkg is less than a mb, fortunately, so adding it to the standard > packages eventually wouldn't inflate the total size that much. I propose the following: (1)

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread didier deshommes
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Nick Alexander wrote: > >>> I would like to establish some (roughly) like this: If a > >>> computation cannot be > >>> expressed from the command line (in pure Python) then it cannot be > >>> a standard > >>> part of Sage. E.g. if you cannot compute $sin(x)$ for some $x$ > >

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread boothby
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Nick Alexander wrote: > > > On 22-Jan-08, at 9:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I think this could be an exciting way to get all the java applet makers out there interested in sage, although I don't completely understand the architecture of what this is

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread Nick Alexander
On 22-Jan-08, at 9:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> I think this could be an exciting way to get all the java applet >>> makers out there interested in sage, although I don't completely >>> understand the architecture of what this is supposed to do. >> >> Wouldn't a Java applet imply that t

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread boothby
>> I think this could be an exciting way to get all the java applet >> makers out there interested in sage, although I don't completely >> understand the architecture of what this is supposed to do. > > Wouldn't a Java applet imply that the functionality it provides could only be > accessed via Sa

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread Martin Albrecht
> I think this could be an exciting way to get all the java applet > makers out there interested in sage, although I don't completely > understand the architecture of what this is supposed to do. Wouldn't a Java applet imply that the functionality it provides could only be accessed via Sage's we

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread mhampton
I agree - an optional package makes more sense for the moment. The spkg is less than a mb, fortunately, so adding it to the standard packages eventually wouldn't inflate the total size that much. There are several optional packages that I use a lot and I hope to eventually have in sage as standa

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread David Joyner
On Jan 22, 2008 5:05 AM, Ted Kosan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > William wrote: > > > > If further testing is successful, I would like to have simpleJSON > > > included in SAGE. What procedure do I need to follow in order to make > > > an official software addition request? > > > > (1) Convince

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread Ted Kosan
William wrote: > > If further testing is successful, I would like to have simpleJSON > > included in SAGE. What procedure do I need to follow in order to make > > an official software addition request? > > (1) Convince us it's a good idea. You basically just did that. > > (2) Create a trac tick

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2007-12-14 Thread Ted Kosan
William wrote > > If further testing is successful, I would like to have simpleJSON > > included in SAGE. What procedure do I need to follow in order to make > > an official software addition request? > > (1) Convince us it's a good idea. You basically just did that. > > (2) Create a trac ticket

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2007-12-10 Thread William Stein
On Dec 10, 2007 8:50 AM, Ted Kosan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have been experimenting with techniques for allowing Java applets to > communicate with the SAGE server and the technique I like the best so > far is to use JSON objects (http://json.org). I am currently using > simpleJSON (http: