[sage-devel] Re: Useful link - internal algorithms used by Mathematica

2010-11-07 Thread mark mcclure
On Nov 8, 12:34 am, Tom Boothby wrote: > I was referring to the webpage, and not the journal article, lest I be > further accused of illicit drug use. As RJF said, that's part of the standard documentation and goes back as far as I can recall. It's in the Mathematica Book for version 2. -- To

[sage-devel] Re: Useful link - internal algorithms used by Mathematica

2010-11-07 Thread mark mcclure
her authors off the top of my head who have published descriptions of the algorithms used in Mathematica. Mark McClure -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more optio

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and commercial software

2009-11-24 Thread mark mcclure
gree with just about everything he said. Mark McClure -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-d

[sage-devel] Re: A Sage NSF proposal to the Computational Mathematics Program

2009-11-23 Thread mark mcclure
On Nov 23, 4:56 pm, Martin Rubey wrote: > Jaap Spies writes: > > Ever heard of the word humor? Even without a smiley this is possible in > > a message. > > I, as a german speaking, can see no humor in that post you link to.   I guess I didn't either. In the overall context of the post, the stat

[sage-devel] Re: A Sage NSF proposal to the Computational Mathematics Program

2009-11-23 Thread mark mcclure
in the development of numerical software (both commercial and free) for many years. Thus, I really feel that your desire to "put Mathworks out of business" is misdirected, particularly in the context of your current grant proposal. Mark McClure -- To post to this group, send an email to

[sage-devel] Re: bug in plot3d?

2009-05-31 Thread mark mcclure
experiencing this? I get the same behavior with plot3d and with parametric_plot3d. I seem to recall mesh=True working properly a few versions ago. Mark McClure --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe fro

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.0

2009-05-30 Thread mark mcclure
ng './sage -bdist 4.0', but there might be an environment variable I need to set first? What is the correct command sequence to build the app? Thanks, Mark McClure --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To un

[sage-devel] Re: What should happen if you type 'notebook()' ?

2009-05-30 Thread mark mcclure
On May 30, 1:42 pm, Mike Hansen wrote: > On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:28 AM, mark mcclure wrote: > > On my Mac, Firefox opens up automatically.  How do you access the > > notebook on Windows, though?  I haven't figured out how to do so, > > presumably since the b

[sage-devel] Re: What should happen if you type 'notebook()' ?

2009-05-30 Thread mark mcclure
eb browser > (go to the address noted above). On my Mac, Firefox opens up automatically. How do you access the notebook on Windows, though? I haven't figured out how to do so, presumably since the browser is a native Windows application, while S

[sage-devel] Re: Maple 13

2009-05-20 Thread mark mcclure
On May 20, 6:19 pm, Stephen Forrest wrote: > 2009/5/18 mark mcclure > > > Here are a couple of graph theoretic timing comparisons > > between Sage 4.0.alpha0 and Maple 13.  They were > > performed on my Macbook Pro running OSX 10.4.11. They > > indicate that Maple

[sage-devel] Re: Wolfram Alpha and Google (Trendalyzer)

2009-05-20 Thread mark mcclure
On May 20, 9:57 am, Jason Grout wrote: > Vinzent Steinberg wrote: > > On May 19, 2:25 pm, mark mcclure wrote: > >> On May 19, 2:08 am, Jason Grout > >> Not necessarily.  Evidently, there will be an API interface to > >> Wolfram Alpha that would, presum

[sage-devel] Re: Wolfram Alpha and Google (Trendalyzer)

2009-05-19 Thread mark mcclure
Sage interface to Alpha... Not necessarily. Evidently, there will be an API interface to Wolfram Alpha that would, presumably, have its own terms of use. Although, exactly what the use of a programmatic interface to a web-site that offers a lot of answers to relatively vague questions is not

[sage-devel] Re: Maple 13

2009-05-18 Thread mark mcclure
ory); n := 5; t := time(); mygraphs := NonIsomorphicGraphs(n, output = graphs, outputform = graph); time()-t isomorphicpairs := false; t := time(); for i to NonIsomorphicGraphs(n) do for j from i+1 to NonIsomorphicGraphs(n) do if IsIsomorphic(mygraphs[i], mygraphs[j]) then isomorphicpairs

[sage-devel] Re: 3.4.2 64 bit MacIntel 10.5 binary with only *one* doctest failure

2009-05-13 Thread mark mcclure
s command on my 32 bit version. I expected this, since I've noticed the same behavior in 64 bit Mathematica, Matlab, and C, but it makes me wonder why we should be excited about 64 bit systems. Mark McClure --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send

[sage-devel] Re: Wolfram Alpha and Google (Trendalyzer)

2009-05-02 Thread mark mcclure
On May 2, 1:02 pm, Robert Dodier wrote: > Maybe a different example is needed; Maxima can now > compute such integrals. Thanks Robert, I did see on the Maxima discussion list back on February 20 that CVS Maxima could do these integrals. However, I checked Maxima 5.18.1 on my Mac laptop and the

[sage-devel] Re: Wolfram Alpha and Google (Trendalyzer)

2009-05-01 Thread mark mcclure
There's a lovely little article in the February 2009 issue of the monthly on using integrals to approximate pi. The author "discovers" some nice rational approximations of pi by systmeatically searching through integrals of the form integrate( (x^m * (1 - x)^n * (a + b*x + c*x^2))/(1 + x^2),

[sage-devel] Re: Wolfram Alpha and Google (Trendalyzer)

2009-04-30 Thread mark mcclure
On Apr 29, 1:37 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:51 AM, mark mcclure wrote: > > > I think, though, that the statement that you need open source in order > > to have verifiable results is not really true. The fact is that bugs are > > found via experim

[sage-devel] Re: Wolfram Alpha and Google (Trendalyzer)

2009-04-29 Thread mark mcclure
On Apr 29, 1:18 pm, John H Palmieri wrote: > One interesting thing from this page, though: > > In[7]:= N[Sin[10^50], 20] > Out[7]= -0.78967...   (I can't copy and paste from that page, but this > is how the number starts) > In[8] := Sin[10.^50] > Out[8] := 0.669369 > > Sage doesn't get the right

[sage-devel] Re: Wolfram Alpha and Google (Trendalyzer)

2009-04-29 Thread mark mcclure
On Apr 29, 11:06 am, William Stein wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:20 AM, mark mcclure wrote: > > The Q&A session includes several pointed > > questions surrounding open source and freedom of access > > to data. Some folks here might find the responses > > int

[sage-devel] Re: Wolfram Alpha and Google (Trendalyzer)

2009-04-29 Thread mark mcclure
estion occurs about 1 hour 19 minutes into it. Mark McClure --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel][P=NP] On The Nature of Computational Complexity

2009-04-20 Thread mark mcclure
= N P) >     [N == 1] What about P==0? That must be the interesting part. :) Mark McClure --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com F

[sage-devel] Re: Elementary Number Theory quickref

2009-04-13 Thread mark mcclure
the card. I found Robert Bradshaw's code for complex_plot in trac so, presumably you're working with a patched or otherwise more recent version. The complex_plot looks great so I'm looking forward to trying it. Mark McClure --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To pos

[sage-devel] Re: Integration Development

2009-03-07 Thread mark mcclure
On Mar 7, 5:47 pm, Robert Dodier wrote: > mark mcclure wrote: > > (%i1) integrate(1/x^3, x, 1, inf); > > Integral is divergent > > It's been fixed in CVS, so it will be in the next release. That's great Robert, thanks! Mark --~--~-~--~~~-

[sage-devel] Re: Integration Development

2009-03-07 Thread mark mcclure
ent version of Maxima but Sage, of course, displays the same problem. Strangely, though: - (%i2) assume(p>1); (%o2) [p > 1] (%i3) integrate(1/x^p, x, 1, inf); (%o3) 1/(p-1) Mark McClure --~--~-~--~~---

[sage-devel] Re: Slowdown in is_isomorphic?

2009-03-02 Thread mark mcclure
On Mar 2, 12:09 pm, Robert Miller wrote: > My timings are showing different results than yours. > ... > What platform were you running your tests on? Hey, Just got back from a day of fun in the snow. I can confirm your timing comparisons, when I run your code on my machine. Makes me wonder if

[sage-devel] Re: help? doesn't work in sage 3.3 notebook

2009-02-27 Thread mark mcclure
On Feb 27, 7:44 am, mabshoff wrote: > On Feb 27, 4:24 am, mark mcclure wrote: > > > The basic help mechanism doesn't seem to work in the the sage 3.3 > > notebook. > > I just checked and get the following on OSX: > >  * the 3.3 notebook 3.3 started fro

[sage-devel] Re: help? doesn't work in sage 3.3 notebook

2009-02-27 Thread mark mcclure
On Feb 27, 7:44 am, mabshoff wrote: > On Feb 27, 4:24 am, mark mcclure wrote: > Overall I am tending to disable App bundles for 3.4 per default due to > time constraints and get it back to default for 3.4.x once the kinks > have been worked out. Thoughts? I do like the app; I assu

[sage-devel] Re: Slowdown in is_isomorphic?

2009-02-27 Thread mark mcclure
On Feb 27, 7:57 am, mabshoff wrote: > On Feb 27, 4:44 am, Jason Grout wrote: > > So it seems that your timings indicate that Networkx's isomorphism > > checker is faster than the Sage one, even if we convert to c_graphs.  Is > > that right? > > > That's embarrassing; I thought we had the "fastes

[sage-devel] help? doesn't work in sage 3.3 notebook

2009-02-27 Thread mark mcclure
e error below in the Sage 3.3 notebook. I'm running Sage 3.3 (upgraded from 3.3.rc2) in Sage.app on my MacBook Pro running OSX 10.4.11. Mark McClure -- Error message Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "/Users/mar

[sage-devel] Re: Slowdown in is_isomorphic?

2009-02-27 Thread mark mcclure
On Feb 26, 11:35 pm, Jason Grout wrote: > What is the Networkx timing?  That seems like the best. That's just straight up NetworkX run independently of Sage. Of course, the code is almost identical. Mark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to

[sage-devel] Re: Slowdown in is_isomorphic?

2009-02-26 Thread mark mcclure
On Feb 26, 9:35 pm, Robert Miller wrote: > Between Sage 3.1.1 and 3.2.3, the background implementation > of graph isomorphism was completely switched over. ... > if the input graphs are based on NetworkX graphs, it will > go much more slowly than it used to. For maximum speed in > is_isomorphic,

[sage-devel] Slowdown in is_isomorphic?

2009-02-26 Thread mark mcclure
de: %time result = false for i in xrange(0,len(some_graphs)-1): for j in xrange(i+1, len(some_graphs)): if some_graphs[i].is_isomorphic(some_graphs[j]): result = true break if result: break result Ma

[sage-devel] Re: savefig from pylab in 3.3

2009-02-24 Thread mark mcclure
On Feb 24, 12:25 am, William Stein wrote: > My recollection is hazy, but I strongly suspect the very issue you > posted about was a problem in some of the rc* releases caused by > upgrading matplotlib (and changes to libpng), that were subsequently > fixed. Yeah, I ran 'sage -upgrade' and all is

[sage-devel] Re: savefig from pylab in 3.3

2009-02-23 Thread mark mcclure
aps, I'll compile the latest tomorrow and see if the problem persists. Thanks, Mark McClure --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups

[sage-devel] savefig from pylab in 3.3

2009-02-23 Thread mark mcclure
over to my desktop where I can view it with Preview.app. The 3.3 error message is included below, Mark McClure --- Traceback (click to the left for traceback) ... ValueError: Unknown file type Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1

[sage-devel] Small problem with Sage.app environment

2009-02-21 Thread mark mcclure
ot happen when I run Sage.app. Is there an easy way for me to set my PATH or other environment variables from within the sage notebook? Is there a logical init file to edit in the Sage.app package to make this happen automatically? Thanks, Mark McClure --~--~-~--~~~---

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.rc2 released

2009-02-20 Thread mark mcclure
After installing the new spkg, sage compiled, Sage.app built, and all but the following three tests passed: sage -t "devel/sage/sage/graphs/graph_plot.py" sage -t "devel/sage/sage/misc/package.py" sage -t "devel/sage/sage/pl

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.rc2 released

2009-02-20 Thread mark mcclure
On Feb 20, 9:18 am, mabshoff wrote: > On Feb 20, 6:08 am, mark mcclure wrote: > I screwed up, please try again. The problem is that I created a tar.gz > instead of a tar.bzip2. I had a feeling it was something like this. I had a class this morning and have only just started the bui

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.rc2 released

2009-02-20 Thread mark mcclure
On Feb 20, 8:47 am, mabshoff wrote: > The spkg needs to be found by Sage. One way is to download it and > place it into $SAGE_ROOT/spkg/standard, i.e. > >  cd spkg/standard >  curlhttp://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mabshoff/SPKG/gmp-mpir-0.9.spkg > -o gmp-mpir-0.9.spkg > > then restart the bui

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.rc2 released

2009-02-20 Thread mark mcclure
On Feb 20, 8:34 am, mabshoff wrote: > please tryhttp://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mabshoff/SPKG/gmp-mpir-0.9.spkg > and report back as soon as possible. I am down to 4 tickets (including > this one) for Sage 3.3.rc3 which will likely be identical to the final > 3.3. I probably should have men

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.rc2 released

2009-02-20 Thread mark mcclure
On Feb 20, 12:35 am, mabshoff wrote: > On Feb 18, 10:41 am, mark mcclure wrote: > > > I get an error building GMP on my MacBook Pro running > > OS X 10.4.11.   > > Hi Mark, > > I haven't gotten to this yet, but I have made this > >    http://trac.sage

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.rc2 released

2009-02-18 Thread mark mcclure
uot;. > > Evidently there's still a little more to building the groovy Sage.app, > > though? > > Run "./sage -bdist 3.3.rc2" and wait until it finishes. Worked great, thanks. Mark McClure --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.rc2 released

2009-02-18 Thread mark mcclure
On Feb 18, 12:33 pm, mabshoff wrote: > 3.3.rc2 has been out for a good half day, Build went smoothly on my Intel MacPro running OS X 10.5.5. Passed all tests from 'sage -t devel/sage/sage/misc/all.py'. Evidently there's still a little more to building the groovy Sage.app, tho

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.rc2 released

2009-02-18 Thread mark mcclure
On Feb 18, 1:44 pm, mabshoff wrote: > Ok, I know what went wrong. I assume this is a MacIntel. Can you send > me the complete compressed log? Correct, this is an Intel based Mac. I'll gzip the log and email it to you shortly. M

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.rc2 released

2009-02-18 Thread mark mcclure
d so far. Mark McClure --- Log - gcc -std=gnu99 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -g -O2 -MT yasm.o -MD -MP - MF .deps/yasm.Tpo -c -o yasm.o `test -f 'frontends/yasm/yasm.c' || echo './'`frontends/yasm/yasm.c mv -f .deps/yasm.Tpo .deps/yasm.Po gcc -std=gnu99 -D

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.rc0 binary for MacIntel OSX 10.5

2009-02-17 Thread mark mcclure
ssue remains. When Sage.app quits, MacOS gives me the message: "The application lisp.run quit unexpectedly." Not a problem as far as I'm concerned, but a bit strange. Mark McClure --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-deve

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.rc0 binary for MacIntel OSX 10.5

2009-02-17 Thread mark mcclure
: set_plot_option([gnuplot_term, aqua]); set_plot_option([gnuplot_pipes_term, aqua]); Of course, now I can no longer plot from my standalone copy of maxima. :) One final comment: George's patch was unnecessary. I hope I didn't send you on a wild goose chase. Ma

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.rc0 binary for MacIntel OSX 10.5

2009-02-16 Thread mark mcclure
on this machine, although I do have Macports. Thanks, Mark McClure --- Post Patch error log Traceback (click to the left for traceback) ... RuntimeError: Unable to start maxima Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "/Users/mcmcclure/.sage/

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.rc0 binary for MacIntel OSX 10.5

2009-02-15 Thread mark mcclure
applicable to Sage.app, not to the command line. That is, I'd like to be able to type: /Applications/Sage.app/Contents/Resources/sage/sage but I don't think your script ever even runs in that case. Thanks, Mark McClure --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to thi

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.rc0 binary for MacIntel OSX 10.5

2009-02-13 Thread mark mcclure
Yeah, I noticed that too. :) Thanks for the help, Mark McClure --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options,

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.rc0 binary for MacIntel OSX 10.5

2009-02-13 Thread mark mcclure
On Feb 13, 12:55 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM, mark mcclure wrote: > What happens when you type: > > ./sage -maxima I get the error message shown below. I had tried that already, since I frequently use sage precisely to access maxima. -

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.rc0 binary for MacIntel OSX 10.5

2009-02-13 Thread mark mcclure
On Feb 13, 5:34 am, mabshoff wrote: > Ok, I figured it out. After downloading the dmg I dragged it to my > desktop and double clicked on it to start. It came up, but Maxima/ > clisp did not start. > > So, after quitting I run that sage on the command line and low and > behold the rebase script ra

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.rc0 binary for MacIntel OSX 10.5

2009-02-12 Thread mark mcclure
te-packages/ sage/interfaces/maxima.py", line 450, in _start File "/Users/mabshoff/sage-3.3.rc0/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/ sage/interfaces/expect.py", line 464, in _start RuntimeError: Unable to start maxima -- Perha

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0 released

2008-04-23 Thread mark mcclure
On Apr 23, 6:24 pm, mark mcclure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 23, 6:17 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > dortmund.de> wrote: > > On Apr 24, 12:14 am, mark mcclure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The trailing kg is missing. Should I simply chan

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0 released

2008-04-23 Thread mark mcclure
On Apr 23, 6:17 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED] dortmund.de> wrote: > On Apr 24, 12:14 am, mark mcclure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The trailing kg is missing. Should I simply change the > > name and try again? > > Yes. Run make, then a "sage -b". If

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0 released

2008-04-23 Thread mark mcclure
On Apr 23, 6:10 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED] dortmund.de> wrote: > for whatever reason there is no Singular in your build log. Right at > the top it says: > ... > Could you check if spkg/standard contains any file called > singular-3-0-4-2-20080405.p1.spkg, i.e: No, there's not. Strangely, th

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0 released

2008-04-23 Thread mark mcclure
On Apr 23, 5:54 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could you type >./sage -br > form the SAGE_ROOT directory and send the output? Sure: -- sage: Building and installing modified SAGE library files. Installing c_lib g++

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0 released

2008-04-23 Thread mark mcclure
On Apr 23, 4:43 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED] dortmund.de> wrote: > We will be much more aggressive from now on in blacklisting know > broken compilers since at least on OSX it should work out of the box > because there is so little variety of the OS itself and Apple usually > is the tool chai

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0 released

2008-04-23 Thread mark mcclure
On Apr 23, 3:53 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED] dortmund.de> wrote: > This looks like Singular did not build properly. > > Please post a link to the whole install.log here so I can take a > look. Unfortunately, I no longer have the whole install.log. In hopes of fixing the problem, I upgraded

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0 released

2008-04-23 Thread mark mcclure
On Apr 23, 3:54 pm, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure what the problem is, probably William Stein or Michael > Abshoff will be able to answer that, but maybe its simplest to just > upgrade your gcc with the latest stuff from apple. My gcc is build > 5465; I'm not sure how they

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0 released

2008-04-23 Thread mark mcclure
On Apr 23, 1:08 pm, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Are their binaries for OS X 10.4? > > NO. And there won't be until somebody volunteers to make them. > > Can you make them? > > Yes, do I just build and do sage -bdist? I attempted to compile sage 3.0 on my Mac G5 running OS