Re: [sage-devel] Re: Downgrade R to optional? See #31409.

2021-03-08 Thread Matthias Koeppe
Downgrading the package from standard to optional is the remedy for an issue that is blocking the 9.3 release (standard package does not compile on the standard platform). This is not a question of policy - it's a practical question of putting together a working release. On Monday, March 8, 20

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Downgrade R to optional? See #31409.

2021-03-08 Thread William Stein
Hi, One related question: we tend to have a 1-year deprecation policy with Sage, and some could argue that removing R will break use of Sage that uses the R interface. Should removing the R package from standard be subject to this deprecation policy or at least a shorter one (6 months)? I was th

[sage-devel] Re: Downgrade R to optional? See #31409.

2021-03-08 Thread Matthias Koeppe
Yes, it is documented how to install optional packages. And Sage 9.3 is improving how optional packages are advertised (see https://wiki.sagemath.org/ReleaseTours/sage-9.3#Chapter_on_packages_in_the_Sage_reference_manual). And yes, optional packages are automatically tested. https://github.com/s

[sage-devel] Re: Downgrade R to optional? See #31409.

2021-03-08 Thread kcrisman
The question is whether the R interface will remain even marginally usable once downgraded to optional. It's fine to have optional packages, as long as there is a clear way to install them and that this is tested. Will this happen? R seems like an awfully big part of "viable competitor" to le

[sage-devel] Re: Downgrade R to optional? See #31409.

2021-03-08 Thread Volker Braun
There are way better distributions of R than ours, just install one of these and the R interface will still work. In fact, if you rely on R then you shouldn't be using the outdated version in Sage... On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:22:12 AM UTC+1 John H Palmieri wrote: > Dear all, > > You should