Hi, One related question: we tend to have a 1-year deprecation policy with Sage, and some could argue that removing R will break use of Sage that uses the R interface. Should removing the R package from standard be subject to this deprecation policy or at least a shorter one (6 months)?
I was the one who added R to Sage long, long ago. I don't feel strongly opposed to removing R today since (1) exactly what Volker says "There are way better distributions of R than ours,", and (2) I think the rest of the Sage library (what we've all written over the years) has ended up depending heavily on numpy/scipy and not at all on R. I didn't know in 2006 (or whenever) how statistics in Sage would grow, or what it would depend on over the next 15 years. Now the exact answer to that question is known, and the answer is definitely not: "Sage statistics will heavily depend on R". -- William On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 8:11 PM kcrisman <kcris...@gmail.com> wrote: > The question is whether the R interface will remain even marginally usable > once downgraded to optional. It's fine to have optional packages, as long > as there is a clear way to install them and that this is tested. Will this > happen? R seems like an awfully big part of "viable competitor" to let > that happen to. > > On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 3:53:33 AM UTC-5 Volker Braun wrote: > >> There are way better distributions of R than ours, just install one of >> these and the R interface will still work. In fact, if you rely on R then >> you shouldn't be using the outdated version in Sage... >> >> >> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:22:12 AM UTC+1 John H Palmieri wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> You should be aware that ticket #31409 ( >>> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/31409) intends to downgrade R to an >>> optional package because of difficulties building it on Cygwin. Just >>> letting you know in case you care about R being part of Sage and/or you >>> have ideas about how to fix the Cygwin build. >>> >>> (The branch there to downgrade R already has a positive review, by the >>> way. I have no position on this, but I thought that more Sage developers >>> should be aware.) >>> >>> -- >>> John >>> >>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/0f71e2d0-8834-4688-b110-55cd308d2ddbn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/0f71e2d0-8834-4688-b110-55cd308d2ddbn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- William (http://wstein.org) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CACLE5GBuRowJ9iUFpmeOpgBNhGujZPHyFxfhkj14oPKy-qw2uw%40mail.gmail.com.
