[sage-devel] Re: Problem retrieving a (positively reviewed) ticket

2016-08-20 Thread Ralf Stephan
I confirm the problem. Also patchbots are spewing ApplyFailed because of it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.co

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Problem retrieving a (positively reviewed) ticket

2016-08-20 Thread Jori Mäntysalo
On Sun, 21 Aug 2016, leif wrote: I am finding myself unable to fetch the positively reviewed ticket TRAC#21135 : No. Works for me: $ git fetch -v trac public/21135 && echo OK $ git fetch -v trac public/21135 fatal: Couldn't find remote ref public/21135 -- Jori Mäntysalo

[sage-devel] Re: Problem retrieving a (positively reviewed) ticket

2016-08-20 Thread Paul Masson
I tried again after I read that he rebooted the server, and once again just now. Same problem before and after rebooting. On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 6:19:37 PM UTC-7, leif wrote: > > Paul Masson wrote: > > Getting the same error for https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21299 > > Works for me a

[sage-devel] Re: Problem retrieving a (positively reviewed) ticket

2016-08-20 Thread leif
Paul Masson wrote: > Getting the same error for https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21299 Works for me as well (with plain git). Did you perhaps try while Dima was rebooting trac? (I think git.sagemath.org is the same machine, although I'm not sure.) -leif -- You received this message because

[sage-devel] Re: [Yet again] Sage's R vs system's R

2016-08-20 Thread leif
Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 9:15:23 PM UTC+2, Emmanuel Charpentier > wrote: > Le samedi 20 août 2016 19:46:45 UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori a écrit : > On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 7:44:15 PM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre > Flori wrote: > On Saturda

[sage-devel] Re: Problem retrieving a (positively reviewed) ticket

2016-08-20 Thread Paul Masson
Getting the same error for https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21299 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

[sage-devel] Re: possibly controversial question: "Can I create commercial software using SageMath?"

2016-08-20 Thread William Stein
On Saturday, August 20, 2016, wrote: > What is the name of the company you're referring to? > > > https://Cloud.sagemath.com > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 4:15:56 PM UTC-5, William wrote: >> >> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 8:15 AM, wrote: >> > I will add this: I'm a retired

[sage-devel] Re: Problem retrieving a (positively reviewed) ticket

2016-08-20 Thread leif
Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > I am finding myself unable to fetch the positively reviewed ticket > TRAC#21135 : > > charpent@asus16-ec:/usr/local/sage-7$ git trac checkout 21135 > Loading ticket #21135... > Checking out Trac #21135 remote branch public/21135 -> local branch > t/21135/public/21135.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: possibly controversial question: "Can I create commercial software using SageMath?"

2016-08-20 Thread ciric50
What is the name of the company you're referring to? On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 4:15:56 PM UTC-5, William wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 8:15 AM, > wrote: > > I will add this: I'm a retired developer with 35+ years of writing > > commercial software, and I will gladly give my time, eff

[sage-devel] Problem retrieving a (positively reviewed) ticket

2016-08-20 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
I am finding myself unable to fetch the positively reviewed ticket TRAC#21135 : charpent@asus16-ec:/usr/local/sage-7$ git trac checkout 21135 Loading ticket #21135... Checking out Trac #21135 remote branch public/21135 -> local branch t/21135/public/21135... Traceback (most recent call last):

Re: [sage-devel] Re: possibly controversial question: "Can I create commercial software using SageMath?"

2016-08-20 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 8:15 AM, wrote: > I will add this: I'm a retired developer with 35+ years of writing > commercial software, and I will gladly give my time, effort, and expertise > to open source software so that enthusiasts, students, amateurs, teachers, > and many others can benefit from

[sage-devel] Re: [Yet again] Sage's R vs system's R

2016-08-20 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 9:15:23 PM UTC+2, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > > > Le samedi 20 août 2016 19:46:45 UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori a écrit : >> >> >> >> On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 7:44:15 PM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 7:05:27 PM

Re: [sage-devel] Re: patchbot.sagemath.org down?

2016-08-20 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 8:28:38 PM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 2016-08-19 12:19, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > Looking at how sage4 runs now, it looks like it is getting an outdated > > ticket list somehow. First of all, it doesn't see any ticket numbers > > above #21184. > > Now

Re: [sage-devel] Re: patchbot.sagemath.org down?

2016-08-20 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2016-08-19 12:19, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: Looking at how sage4 runs now, it looks like it is getting an outdated ticket list somehow. First of all, it doesn't see any ticket numbers above #21184. Now the ticket list seems to be updated. I still don't know how the patchbot gets its ticket list

[sage-devel] Re: [Yet again] Sage's R vs system's R

2016-08-20 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
Le samedi 20 août 2016 19:46:45 UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori a écrit : > > > > On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 7:44:15 PM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 7:05:27 PM UTC+2, leif wrote: >>> >>> Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: >>> > While trying my hand

[sage-devel] Re: [Yet again] Sage's R vs system's R

2016-08-20 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 6:46:45 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > > > On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 7:44:15 PM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 7:05:27 PM UTC+2, leif wrote: >>> >>> Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: >>> > While trying my hand <

[sage-devel] Re: trac down?

2016-08-20 Thread Dima Pasechnik
I just installed updates and rebooted it... On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 7:20:53 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > Nevermind, it seems up. > > On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 7:47:17 PM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: >> >> trac down? >> > -- You received this message because you are sub

[sage-devel] Re: trac down?

2016-08-20 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Nevermind, it seems up. On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 7:47:17 PM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > trac down? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email t

[sage-devel] Re: possibly controversial question: "Can I create commercial software using SageMath?"

2016-08-20 Thread ciric50
I will add this: I'm a retired developer with 35+ years of writing commercial software, and I will gladly give my time, effort, and expertise to open source software so that enthusiasts, students, amateurs, teachers, and many others can benefit from it. However if it ever gets to the point wher

[sage-devel] trac down?

2016-08-20 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
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[sage-devel] Re: [Yet again] Sage's R vs system's R

2016-08-20 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 7:44:15 PM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > > > On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 7:05:27 PM UTC+2, leif wrote: >> >> Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: >> > While trying my hand at >> porting >> > R 3.3.1 to Sage (needs_review

[sage-devel] Re: [Yet again] Sage's R vs system's R

2016-08-20 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 7:05:27 PM UTC+2, leif wrote: > > Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > > While trying my hand at > porting > > R 3.3.1 to Sage (needs_review, by the way), I found this in the > > current R Installation and Administration manual

[sage-devel] Re: [Yet again] Sage's R vs system's R

2016-08-20 Thread leif
Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > While trying my hand at porting > R 3.3.1 to Sage (needs_review, by the way), I found this in the > current R Installation and Administration manual > : > >

[sage-devel] Re: daily WTF?

2016-08-20 Thread leif
leif wrote: > Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 2:09:34 PM UTC+1, leif wrote: >> >> Volker Braun wrote: >> > The many ways of implementing xor... >> > >> > Incidentally, if there is some global switch to return certificates >> > instead of booleans then th

[sage-devel] Re: daily WTF?

2016-08-20 Thread leif
Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 2:09:34 PM UTC+1, leif wrote: > > Volker Braun wrote: > > The many ways of implementing xor... > > > > Incidentally, if there is some global switch to return certificates > > instead of booleans then the sum version is the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ExpressionNice

2016-08-20 Thread Nils Bruin
On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 6:13:16 AM UTC-7, Eric Gourgoulhon wrote: > > > >> I'd be hesitant to go any further. Using leibnitz notation in general >> requires temporary variables, e.g. >> >> D[0,1](f)(x+y,x-y) = diff(f(t1,t2),t1,t2) |_[t1=x+y,t2=x-y] >> >> I don't think the RHS is more rea

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ExpressionNice

2016-08-20 Thread Bill Page
On 20 August 2016 at 08:54, Bill Page wrote: > > If Sage supported a standard ASCII-art 2-d output format for > expressions, then perhaps another choice would be suitable. > Perhaps I should have said "unicode-art" 2-d output. I noticed that in --notebook=jupyter Sympy does thiis import sympy sy

[sage-devel] [Yet again] Sage's R vs system's R

2016-08-20 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
While trying my hand at porting R 3.3.1 to Sage (needs_review, by the way), I found this in the current R Installation and Administration manual : > C.8 Cygwin > > The 32-bit version

[sage-devel] Re: Dealing with libc math differences

2016-08-20 Thread leif
Erik Bray wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Erik Bray wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Erik Bray wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Sorry if this has been discussed ad-infinitum before--I looked around >>> a bit but didn't find a definitive answer. >>> >>> I have one (well at least one

[sage-devel] Re: daily WTF?

2016-08-20 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 2:09:34 PM UTC+1, leif wrote: > > Volker Braun wrote: > > The many ways of implementing xor... > > > > Incidentally, if there is some global switch to return certificates > > instead of booleans then the sum version is the correct one ;-) > > Besides the perha

[sage-devel] Re: error compiling ntl in sage 7.3.beta8

2016-08-20 Thread leif
chris wuthrich wrote: > > The original problem in this thread was resolved, but then there were > other problems with compiling sage 7.3 on CentOS6.8. Could you sketch them? Missing prerequisites, and/or further outdated/too old/insufficient versions? FWIW, (system) Python 2.6 compatibility (t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ExpressionNice

2016-08-20 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
Le vendredi 19 août 2016 20:24:24 UTC+2, Nils Bruin a écrit : > > > Personally, I'm comfortable with the basic representation choices made in > https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21286 . > Thanks for this ticket. > I'd be hesitant to go any further. Using leibnitz notation in general > require

[sage-devel] Re: daily WTF?

2016-08-20 Thread leif
Volker Braun wrote: > The many ways of implementing xor... > > Incidentally, if there is some global switch to return certificates > instead of booleans then the sum version is the correct one ;-) Besides the perhaps clumsy syntax in Python, it's IMHO ok. Just imagine we had a list of more than

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ExpressionNice

2016-08-20 Thread Bill Page
On 19 August 2016 at 18:30, Bill Page wrote: > ... > Probably the only way to make a sufficient number of people happy > enough to get a positive review on this ticket would be to implement > several major alternative notations for derivatives and an easy way to > switch between them. Then the onl

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ExpressionNice

2016-08-20 Thread Bill Page
On 20 August 2016 at 08:14, Eric Gourgoulhon wrote: > Le jeudi 18 août 2016 07:59:15 UTC+2, Nils Bruin a écrit : >> >> The situation for topological manifolds is slightly different, because >> expressions there live in the context of a chart, where a specific >> correspondence between variable nam

[sage-devel] Re: Issue with coverage plugin?

2016-08-20 Thread Frédéric Chapoton
Well, this is typical of Python3. You are trying to use the patchbot with python3. This has never been done (vene if I tried to anticipate). You should rather not be using python3 to run a patchbot (yet) Le samedi 20 août 2016 13:46:48 UTC+2, Eric Gourgoulhon a écrit : > > Hi, > > In https://pat

[sage-devel] Re: daily WTF?

2016-08-20 Thread ciric50
The sum version works of course, but I'd favor the other code because it is so much clearer. It's the difference between having to figure out what is intended and being able to see at a glance the meaning of the code. On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 4:51:42 AM UTC-5, William wrote: > > At Sage D

[sage-devel] Re: ExpressionNice

2016-08-20 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
Hi, Le jeudi 18 août 2016 07:59:15 UTC+2, Nils Bruin a écrit : > > > The situation for topological manifolds is slightly different, because > expressions there live in the context of a chart, where a specific > correspondence between variable name and parameter position has been > imposed. That

[sage-devel] Issue with coverage plugin?

2016-08-20 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
Hi, In https://patchbot.sagemath.org/ticket/18843/ the coverage plugin (running on the patchbot ark) failed with the message Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/ralf/.local/lib/python3.4/site-packages/sage_patchbot/patchbot.py", line 1060, in test_a_ticket baseline=baseline, **

[sage-devel] Re: daily WTF?

2016-08-20 Thread Volker Braun
The many ways of implementing xor... Incidentally, if there is some global switch to return certificates instead of booleans then the sum version is the correct one ;-) On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 11:51:42 AM UTC+2, William wrote: > > At Sage Days a new developer we're onboarding decided to

[sage-devel] daily WTF?

2016-08-20 Thread William Stein
At Sage Days a new developer we're onboarding decided to look at some code in Sage and ran into this: if sum([G.is_directed(), H.is_directed()]) == 1: raise ValueError("One graph can not be directed while the other is not.") This is line 551 of src/sage/graphs/generic_graph_pyx.pyx:

[sage-devel] Re: possibly controversial question: "Can I create commercial software using SageMath?"

2016-08-20 Thread Volker Braun
On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 2:28:58 AM UTC+2, Robert Dodier wrote: > > I know that various parties have offered their opinions about what > constitutes a derived work, including the FSF, the institution behind > the GPL. But even the FSF's interpretation isn't binding on anybody -- > whether