On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 7:44:15 PM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote:
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> On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 7:05:27 PM UTC+2, leif wrote:
>>
>> Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: 
>> > While trying my hand <https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/20523> at 
>> porting 
>> > R 3.3.1 to Sage (needs_review, by the way), I found this in the 
>> > current R Installation and Administration manual 
>> > <https://cran.r-project.org/doc/manuals/r-release/R-admin.html#Cygwin> 
>> : 
>> > 
>> >> C.8 Cygwin 
>> >> 
>> >> The 32-bit version has never worked well enough to pass R’s make 
>> > check, and residual support from 
>> >> earlier experiments was removed in R 3.3.0. 
>>
> I wonder what the residual support was... 
>
>> >> 
>> >> The 64-bit version is completely unsupported. 
>>
> I concur, but that was for bad reasons, or let's be fair, one could say 
> the lack of manpower maybe? 
>
>> > 
>> > Maybe we should consider to have an interface to system's R rather than 
>> > our own version (and therefore make it an optional package) 
>>
>> +1 for making it an optional package.  (It's by the way not what I'd 
>> call a small package, and also takes some time to build.) 
>>  
>>
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>> The Cygwin developers certainly have to say something regarding support 
>> as a standard package.  (I don't think it would make sense to upgrade 
>> Sage's R version *and* keep it a standard package if it does no longer 
>> build on Cygwin.  We could presumably still keep Rpy and let it use the 
>> system version of R, also on Windoze, if present and suited.) g
>>
>> It's not my impression that The R folk really supported any version of 
> Cygwin recently.
> I even got bashed out when proposing a simple and non-intrusive patch for 
> Cygwin64.
> The point is that it seems hopeless to push patches upstream which is a 
> very bad point.
> gwthat hard at all, one just needs a setup and a very little bit of good 
> will:
> ftp://cygwin.com/pub/cygwin/x86_64/release/R/
> So yes R still builds on Cygwin32/64.
>
And frankly the set of patches shipped by Cygwin is really small...
One would need to make a diplomatic move toward R folk. 

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