Re: [sage-devel] Re: Should we still support old-style packages?

Hi, On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 04:42:32PM +0200, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2015-09-10 15:14, Nathann Cohen wrote: > >I do not have your faith that *all* of the guys who appear as > >maintainers of a package would, when receiving such a bug report, > >immediately fix it or make sure that it will not

[sage-devel] Guide to SageMathCloud courses

I just put up a comprehensive blog post about my first couple weeks using the very nice "course" functionality in SageMathCloud, and there should be enough detail there to help folks get started quickly if they'd like to do the same. Highly recommended (SMC courses, not my blog). http://www.be

Re: [sage-devel] a patchbot named geom misbehaves

On 11/09/15 22:16, Dima Pasechnik wrote: On 11 Sep 2015 17:48, "Vincent Delecroix" <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: On 11/09/15 20:47, Dima Pasechnik wrote: By the way, remember to register here : http://wiki.sagemath.org/buildbot/owners If I only knew how to log in to register it...

Re: [sage-devel] a patchbot named geom misbehaves

On 11 Sep 2015 17:48, "Vincent Delecroix" <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 11/09/15 20:47, Dima Pasechnik wrote: By the way, remember to register here : http://wiki.sagemath.org/buildbot/owners >> >> >> If I only knew how to log in to register it... > > > Used to be the long

Re: [sage-devel] a patchbot named geom misbehaves

On 11/09/15 20:47, Dima Pasechnik wrote: By the way, remember to register here : http://wiki.sagemath.org/buildbot/owners If I only knew how to log in to register it... Used to be the long/password from trac. Should we rather move this page to the github wiki of the patchbot repo? Patchbo

Re: [sage-devel] a patchbot named geom misbehaves

Just restarted it. Hopefully it will help. On 11 September 2015 at 16:19, Vincent Delecroix <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: > I guess it is one of Dima (since the home folder is /home/dima)... > > On 11/09/15 03:32, Frédéric Chapoton wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> to anybody who is concerned. >> >>

[sage-devel] Local server shutdown

I use sage mostly at the notebook level and i was thinking there should be a button/link in the notebook interface to shut down the local server after use before closing the browser so as to free up system resources. Though I have a script that does that for me, I think this is necessary for nov

Re: [sage-devel] a patchbot named geom misbehaves

I guess it is one of Dima (since the home folder is /home/dima)... On 11/09/15 03:32, Frédéric Chapoton wrote: Hello, to anybody who is concerned. *please stop the patchbot named "geom",* as it is currently giving wrong reports. By the way, remember to register here : http://wiki.sagemath.org

[sage-devel] Re: is python a prereq for Sage?

> Also, we do still build our own Python, else the whole python2 vs. python3 issue would be moot, I guess? I hope I'm not *that* far out of touch ;-) >>> > Python 2.3 was released July 29, 2003 and well predates Sage ;-) > > You can always download a Python binary from python.o

Re: [sage-devel] Re: help with mod 2 matrices

Related problem sage: m = matrix(GF(2),[1,1,1,1],sparse=True) sage: matrix(GF(2), m, sparse=False).is_sparse() True Vincent On 11/09/15 16:19, Travis Scrimshaw wrote: It probably needs just another type check in the maze of the matrix constructors. Best, Travis On Friday, September 11, 2015

[sage-devel] Re: help with mod 2 matrices

It probably needs just another type check in the maze of the matrix constructors. Best, Travis On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:06:28 PM UTC-5, John H Palmieri wrote: > > This is probably easy to fix, but I don't know how: > > sage: id = identity_matrix(GF(2), 1) > sage: id.augment(id) # wor

[sage-devel] help with mod 2 matrices

This is probably easy to fix, but I don't know how: sage: id = identity_matrix(GF(2), 1) sage: id.augment(id) # works [1 1] sage: id.augment(id.sparse_matrix()) # doesn't --- TypeError Traceb

[sage-devel] Re: is python a prereq for Sage?

On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 7:50:08 PM UTC+2, kcrisman wrote: > > Also, we do still build our own Python, else the whole python2 vs. >>> python3 issue would be moot, I guess? I hope I'm not *that* far out of >>> touch ;-) >>> >> Python 2.3 was released July 29, 2003 and well predates Sage

[sage-devel] Re: is python a prereq for Sage?

> > >> Python >= 2.6 is required >>> >>> >> Since when? At the very least our documentation for >> installation/whatever should be changed. (!) >> >> That is "not good", for some value of good. Plus, what was the >> rationale? (That is a legitimate question, I assume there was a good >> re

[sage-devel] Re: is python a prereq for Sage?

On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 7:14:55 PM UTC+2, kcrisman wrote: > > At the very least our documentation for installation/whatever should be > changed. (!) > http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/19189 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel"

[sage-devel] Re: is python a prereq for Sage?

On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 10:14:55 AM UTC-7, kcrisman wrote: > > > Python >= 2.6 is required >> >> > Since when? At the very least our documentation for installation/whatever > should be changed. (!) > > That is "not good", for some value of good. Plus, what was the rationale? > (Th

[sage-devel] Re: is python a prereq for Sage?

> Python >= 2.6 is required > > Since when? At the very least our documentation for installation/whatever should be changed. (!) That is "not good", for some value of good. Plus, what was the rationale? (That is a legitimate question, I assume there was a good reason, I just don't know i

[sage-devel] Re: is python a prereq for Sage?

Python >= 2.6 is required On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 6:12:14 PM UTC+2, kcrisman wrote: > > I just tried to build Sage from scratch on a (nearly) obsolete platform... > having already made some appropriate changes. What surprises me is that I > have trouble with the first package, namel

[sage-devel] is python a prereq for Sage?

I just tried to build Sage from scratch on a (nearly) obsolete platform... having already made some appropriate changes. What surprises me is that I have trouble with the first package, namely patch! Because of the Sage bootstrap thingie ../sage_bootstrap/config.py, line 63 @classmethod ^ S

[sage-devel] Re: Japanese Translations of the official tutorial and a_tour_of_sage

> > > I have recently finished Japanese translations of the official sage > tutorial and a_tour_of_sage. > I would like to upload them on the trac server as soon as possible. > (I am not familiar with both git and trac, it takes come time...) > Please review them; Any comment will be welcomed. >

[sage-devel] citing SageMath

I was just advising a student on how to cite Sage (in a poster being presented at a conference), and noticed that the official version at http://wiki.sagemath.org/Publications_using_SAGE calls it "Sage Mathematics Software" and not "SageMath " Should that change -- evn though "SageMath Mathe

Re: [sage-devel] Should we still support old-style packages?

Ok, I see. Thanks for clarifying. It was not clear from the initial question. Then, I am fine with (B) or (D) for the next official Sage release and for (D) thereafter. Sébastien -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe f

Re: [sage-devel] Should we still support old-style packages?

No its a compliment --- I would do the same thing ;-) On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:20:32 PM UTC+2, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 2015-09-11 14:16, Volker Braun wrote: > > always pose loaded questions. > I hope that's not an accusation. > -- You received this message because you are subsc

Re: [sage-devel] Should we still support old-style packages?

On 2015-09-11 14:16, Volker Braun wrote: always pose loaded questions. I hope that's not an accusation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-deve

Re: [sage-devel] Should we still support old-style packages?

Jeroen gave the thread a misleading name (always pose loaded questions). The real subject is: Should the old-style packages be searched for. Only applies to old-style packages that are hosted on files.sagemath.org. On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:07:01 PM UTC+2, Sébastien Labbé wrote: > > >

Re: [sage-devel] Should we still support old-style packages?

On 2015-09-11 14:07, Sébastien Labbé wrote: On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 1:10:47 PM UTC+2, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2015-09-11 12:37, Sébastien Labbé wrote: > There are packages out there that are not listed on official > sagemath.org/packages_lists

Re: [sage-devel] Should we still support old-style packages?

> This thread is about "should we still support old-style packages" and my > answer *is* about that thread. "Should we still support old-style packages with 'sage -i ' ? (no changes were made to 'sage -i ') " Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [sage-devel] Should we still support old-style packages?

On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 1:10:47 PM UTC+2, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 2015-09-11 12:37, Sébastien Labbé wrote: > > There are packages out there that are not listed on official > > sagemath.org/packages_lists > True, but that's not what this thread is about. Nothing will change to >

Re: [sage-devel] a patchbot named geom misbehaves

Hi Frédéric, Could we have a ban procedure on the server side? Vincent On 11/09/15 03:32, Frédéric Chapoton wrote: Hello, to anybody who is concerned. *please stop the patchbot named "geom",* as it is currently giving wrong reports. By the way, remember to register here : http://wiki.sagema

Re: [sage-devel] Should we still support old-style packages?

On 2015-09-11 12:37, Sébastien Labbé wrote: There are packages out there that are not listed on official sagemath.org/packages_lists True, but that's not what this thread is about. Nothing will change to externally-hosted old-style packages. -- You received this message because you are subscri

[sage-devel] Re: A script to perform "old spkg -> new-style package"

Hi Jeroen, On 2015-09-11, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2015-09-11 11:41, Simon King wrote: >> I published a working old-style spkg that >> copes with the backward incompatible changes that broke the "official" >> optional spkg. > Great! Let's just use that and revert #19004. No Nathann script neede

Re: [sage-devel] Should we still support old-style packages?

OK, let me vote too. > Votes so far are: > (B): Jeroen Demeyer, Simon King, Sébastien Labbé > (D): Volker Braun, John Cremona, John Palmieri > > Anybody else wants to give his/her opinion? > There are packages out there that are not listed on official sagemath.org/packages_lists : http://ww

Re: [sage-devel] Re: A script to perform "old spkg -> new-style package"

On 2015-09-11 11:41, Simon King wrote: I published a working old-style spkg that copes with the backward incompatible changes that broke the "official" optional spkg. Great! Let's just use that and revert #19004. No Nathann script needed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[sage-devel] Re: A script to perform "old spkg -> new-style package"

On 2015-09-11, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > Converting a broken old-style package to new-style will just give you a > broken new-style package. > > I think that Nathann's script solves a non-existing problem. Could still be helpful for me. I published a working old-style spkg that copes with the back

Re: [sage-devel] Re: A script to perform "old spkg -> new-style package"

On 2015-09-10 20:12, Simon King wrote: Hi Jeroen, On 2015-09-10, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: It seems that people which are against old-style packages are against them because they are broken. Those people will probably be against old-converted-to-new-style packages too. Didn't Volker say that the

[sage-devel] Please redirect the old homepage of my cohomology spkg

Hi! In case some administrator for sage.math.washington reads this: I have moved the documentation of my group cohomology spkg. The old location was http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/SimonKing/Cohomology/, the old is http://users.minet.uni-jena.de/cohomology/documentation/ Can you please redi

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

Looks like Apple kept the new behavior of DYLD_* environment variables and they are not passed down to launched interpreters. Hence sooner or later we crash with symbol not found as libraries can't be located. Really we should have switched to rpaths years ago, this would have saved so much pain