Re: [sage-devel] I can't connect my ssh key with my trac account

2015-08-11 Thread Vincent Delecroix
On 12/08/15 06:23, Hans Gundlach wrote: I also assumed all this is done in the sage cloud terminal. What is "all this"? This should be up to you whether you want to use the cloud or your own computer. But I have no idea how does work the cloud. -- You received this message because you are su

Re: [sage-devel] I can't connect my ssh key with my trac account

2015-08-11 Thread Hans Gundlach
I also assumed all this is done in the sage cloud terminal. On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 9:06:43 PM UTC-7, Hans Gundlach wrote: > > I followed those instructions as accurately as I could from the pages. > > On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 8:54:42 PM UTC-7, vdelecroix wrote: >> >> On 12/08/15 03:0

Re: [sage-devel] I can't connect my ssh key with my trac account

2015-08-11 Thread Hans Gundlach
I followed those instructions as accurately as I could from the pages. On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 8:54:42 PM UTC-7, vdelecroix wrote: > > On 12/08/15 03:01, Hans Gundlach wrote: > > I'm having a problem connecting my ssh key to my Trac account. I first > > tried linking my key manually. I ge

Re: [sage-devel] I can't connect my ssh key with my trac account

2015-08-11 Thread Vincent Delecroix
On 12/08/15 03:01, Hans Gundlach wrote: I'm having a problem connecting my ssh key to my Trac account. I first tried linking my key manually. I generated a ssh key and copied the key to my trac account and saved. Note,Is the first part of the ssh-rsa part needed for the ssh key? What is "the fi

[sage-devel] I can't connect my ssh key with my trac account

2015-08-11 Thread Hans Gundlach
I'm having a problem connecting my ssh key to my Trac account. I first tried linking my key manually. I generated a ssh key and copied the key to my trac account and saved. Note,Is the first part of the ssh-rsa part needed for the ssh key? when I typed ssh g...@trac.sagemath.org info the termi

Re: [sage-devel] regression between 6.8 and 6.9.beta1

2015-08-11 Thread Justin C. Walker
> On Aug 11, 2015, at 07:17, Daniel Krenn wrote: > > On 2015-08-11 12:00, Sébastien Labbé wrote: >> Can you confirm that you get the same regression as I do? >> >> Sébastien >> >> With sage 6.8: >> >> $ sage nbruin.sage >> Time: CPU 2.48 s, Wall: 2.49 s >> Time: CPU 2.13 s, Wall: 2.16 s >> Ti

Re: [sage-devel] PolynomialQuotientRing_generic not a QuotientRing_generic

2015-08-11 Thread David Roe
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Stefan Witzel wrote: > I see (at least partly). The reason I became aware is that > PolynomialQuotientRing_generic doesn't implement cover(). Is that on > purpose? I doubt that that is on purpose. Multiple inheritance would solve it, though there may be other iss

[sage-devel] Re: package for old version

2015-08-11 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Thanks! On 11/08/15 22:13, Harald Schilly wrote: It's in the file archive: http://old.files.sagemath.org/spkg/archive/ppl-1.1pre9.p0.spkg -- harald On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Vincent Delecroix <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello, I was trying to build old version of Sage (it is

[sage-devel] Re: package for old version

2015-08-11 Thread Harald Schilly
It's in the file archive: http://old.files.sagemath.org/spkg/archive/ppl-1.1pre9.p0.spkg -- harald On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Vincent Delecroix <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I was trying to build old version of Sage (it is holidays). But I was not > able to found the pa

[sage-devel] package for old version

2015-08-11 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Hello, I was trying to build old version of Sage (it is holidays). But I was not able to found the package ppl-1.1pre9.p0 which prevents me to build sage-6.0 (as well as 6.1 and 6.2). Does anybody knows where it might be? Could somebody update it on the mirrors? Note that sage-6.3 went sm

Re: [sage-devel] regression between 6.8 and 6.9.beta1

2015-08-11 Thread Sébastien Labbé
> Cannot confirm this: > Okay, thanks for checking! So the hypothesis now is that it is due to an improvement from #14058 which was applied on my sage-6.8. Thanksfully! Sébastien -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe

Re: [sage-devel] PolynomialQuotientRing_generic not a QuotientRing_generic

2015-08-11 Thread Stefan Witzel
I see (at least partly). The reason I became aware is that PolynomialQuotientRing_generic doesn't implement cover(). Is that on purpose? (I haven't been using Sage for very long yet, but it seems to happen quite often that code generally works but is suddenly broken by the fact that an object

Re: [sage-devel] PolynomialQuotientRing_generic not a QuotientRing_generic

2015-08-11 Thread David Roe
We used to try to describe mathematical properties through Python inheritance, but have since shifted to using Sage's category framework. So I don't think that there's a particularly strong reason to choose either CommutativeRing or QuotientRing_generic to inherit from. Of course, as a Python cl

Re: [sage-devel] regression between 6.8 and 6.9.beta1

2015-08-11 Thread Daniel Krenn
On 2015-08-11 12:00, Sébastien Labbé wrote: Can you confirm that you get the same regression as I do? Sébastien With sage 6.8: $ sage nbruin.sage Time: CPU 2.48 s, Wall: 2.49 s Time: CPU 2.13 s, Wall: 2.16 s Time: CPU 33.20 s, Wall: 34.11 s With sage 6.9.beta1: $ sage nbruin.sage Time: CPU 7

Re: [sage-devel] packaging vision (pip etc)

2015-08-11 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:15 AM, Volker Braun wrote: > [Top-posted to stop threadjacking the SymEngine post] I'm sorry for doing that -- it was sort of relevant to his question, but starting a new thread is much better. > > Just have the sage-python-library install using pip, assuming your syste

[sage-devel] Re: regression between 6.8 and 6.9.beta1

2015-08-11 Thread Sébastien Labbé
>Can you confirm that you get the same regression as I do? I need somebody to confirm because my version of sage-6.8 was not clean. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[sage-devel] Re: regression between 6.8 and 6.9.beta1

2015-08-11 Thread Sébastien Labbé
> Can you profile the code in both versions of Sage, to see where the regression comes from? %prun doesn't say much (note that I am compiling sage at the same time which explains the 15s)... With sage 6.8 : sage: %prun test(a,b) 3 function calls in 2.799 seconds Ordered by: inte

[sage-devel] Re: regression between 6.8 and 6.9.beta1

2015-08-11 Thread Nathann Cohen
> > Can you confirm that you get the same regression as I do? > Can you profile the code in both versions of Sage, to see where the regression comes from? Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[sage-devel] PolynomialQuotientRing_generic not a QuotientRing_generic

2015-08-11 Thread Stefan Witzel
I noticed that PolynomialQuotientRing_generic is not derived from QuotientRing_generic but rather directly from CommutativeRing. Is there a reason for that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[sage-devel] QuotientRing of PowerSeriesRing

2015-08-11 Thread Stefan Witzel
In the discussion [1] it was noticed out that sage cannot reduce elements in polynomial rings over arbitrary rings modulo non-principal ideals and (more importantly) how to react to this. There was a general tendency for raising an exception rather than returning bogus results. But in the curre

Re: [sage-devel] regression between 6.8 and 6.9.beta1

2015-08-11 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Hello, I think that we should seriously start a regression test suite as this is not the first time! Does anybody already started something? Has suggestion? Regression tests might even be included in the patchbot. Vincent On 11/08/15 12:00, Sébastien Labbé wrote: Can you confirm that you g

[sage-devel] regression between 6.8 and 6.9.beta1

2015-08-11 Thread Sébastien Labbé
Can you confirm that you get the same regression as I do? Sébastien With sage 6.8: $ sage nbruin.sage Time: CPU 2.48 s, Wall: 2.49 s Time: CPU 2.13 s, Wall: 2.16 s Time: CPU 33.20 s, Wall: 34.11 s With sage 6.9.beta1: $ sage nbruin.sage Time: CPU 7.83 s, Wall: 8.07 s Time: CPU 8.07 s, Wall: 8

Re: [sage-devel] Methods for evaluating the Jones representations of braids and the Jones polynomials of the closure

2015-08-11 Thread Vincent Delecroix
It is technically feasible and certainly easy. But will the current programmers will one day contribute to Sage? If the answer is no, it would be bad to include it in Sage source code as it will diverge from upstream. This is why I asked to ask before moving on. On 11/08/15 02:44, Travis Scrim

[sage-devel] packaging vision (pip etc)

2015-08-11 Thread Volker Braun
[Top-posted to stop threadjacking the SymEngine post] Just have the sage-python-library install using pip, assuming your system has all the dependencies, is almost trivial. The real question is always how to handle the dependencies, starting at a Fortran compiler. Also, just to establish a base