Re: [sage-devel] Re: Extremely broad bug in Sage Integral Computations

2015-06-03 Thread rjf
1. anyone who believes that sqrt(x^2) is |x| is mistaken. As Bill Page says, there are two values. 2. any system that automatically produces |x| can be tricked into committing serious errors. Currently, Maxima apparently does this. Some people consider this a feature. Clearly we have a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Extremely broad bug in Sage Integral Computations

2015-06-03 Thread kcrisman
> > > > > Apparently sympy can't do it either (?). Here is my experiment. > > > > Sorry, I don't see how your code below is testing Sympy. > > It wasn't, that was just an off-hand remark. The testing was for the actual problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to t

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Re: Make doc error

2015-06-03 Thread John H Palmieri
Earlier in the docbuilding, I see this: [combinat ] building [inventory]: targets for 2 source files that are out of date [combinat ] updating environment: 0 added, 2 changed, 0 removed [combinat ] reading sources... [ 50%] sage/combinat/cluster_algebra_quiver/cluster_seed [combinat ] Encoding e

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Re: Make doc error

2015-06-03 Thread Viviane Pons
This I did already... 2015-06-03 18:21 GMT-05:00 Volker Braun : > Try "make doc-clean && make" > > > On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 1:06:03 AM UTC+2, Viviane Pons wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I get this doc build error on a branch ( >> http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18594) and I have no idea wh

[sage-devel] Re: Make doc error

2015-06-03 Thread Volker Braun
Try "make doc-clean && make" On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 1:06:03 AM UTC+2, Viviane Pons wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I get this doc build error on a branch ( > http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18594) and I have no idea why. I just > know the error comes from the branch (I can build the doc fine on

[sage-devel] Make doc error

2015-06-03 Thread Viviane Pons
Hi everyone, I get this doc build error on a branch ( http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18594) and I have no idea why. I just know the error comes from the branch (I can build the doc fine on develop) but I don't know which commit caused it. I'm going to look into it but if someone has the slightest

[sage-devel] Re: Next week's rides

2015-06-03 Thread Rob Beezer
Sitting in the wrong Google Group. ;-) Sorry for the noise. Off course, any Sage developer who would like to go bicycle riding with us is always welcome! Rob On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 2:47:10 PM UTC-7, Rob Beezer wrote: > > Need leadership - feel free to volunteer on/off-list for Tuesday

[sage-devel] Next week's rides

2015-06-03 Thread Rob Beezer
Need leadership - feel free to volunteer on/off-list for Tuesday or Thursday. I can help with route and post-ride suggestions, and rebroadcast. Summer ride calendar is beginning to take form: Jun 9 Leadership? Jun 16 Jun 23 Solstice Ride, Port Orchard Aug 18 Gretchen and Hal Hodgins, Rosed

Re: [sage-devel] What is the parent() of a vector from a subspace?

2015-06-03 Thread David Roe
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Johan S. R. Nielsen wrote: > What is the sensible notion of parent() for a vector that I drew out of a > vector subspace? > For instance, what should be printed by the following lines? > > VS = (QQ^3).subspace([ (1, 1 ,1) ]) > v = VS.an_element() > print v.parent()

[sage-devel] What is the parent() of a vector from a subspace?

2015-06-03 Thread Johan S. R. Nielsen
What is the sensible notion of parent() for a vector that I drew out of a vector subspace? For instance, what should be printed by the following lines? VS = (QQ^3).subspace([ (1, 1 ,1) ]) v = VS.an_element() print v.parent() One possibility is that QQ^3 should be printed. Alternatively, and the

Re: [sage-devel] Full-time Sage developer position opening at Université Paris-Sud for Fall 2015

2015-06-03 Thread Johan S. R. Nielsen
Awesome news. Congratulations on the project! On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 12:30:47 AM UTC+2, William wrote: > > > This is a preliminary announcement for a full time Sage developer >> position > > > ... the first such position ever! :-) > > > No... The coding theory in Sage project has been runn

Re: [sage-devel] Extremely broad bug in Sage Integral Computations

2015-06-03 Thread Bill Page
On 2 June 2015 at 13:26, Gregory Bard wrote: > > Consider the integral of sqrt( cot(x)^2 ). I think we can all agree that > > sqrt( cot(x)^2 ) = abs( cot (x) ) =/= cot(x) > > ... That is probably exactly where the disagreement starts since sqrt can be considered a "multi-valued function" and one

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Extremely broad bug in Sage Integral Computations

2015-06-03 Thread Bill Page
Yes. https://cloud.sagemath.com/projects/b04b5777-e269-4c8f-a4b8-b21dbe1c93c6/files/integral.sagews On 3 June 2015 at 13:31, Samuel Lelievre wrote: > Can fricas do this integral? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubsc

[sage-devel] Re: Extremely broad bug in Sage Integral Computations

2015-06-03 Thread Samuel Lelievre
Can fricas do this integral? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-dev

Re: [sage-devel] Re: dpkg: error processing package sagemath-upstream-binary (--configure):

2015-06-03 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi There is a new working deb on the Sage PPA (sage 6.6, our version 6.7ppa10revert6.6.aims6-2). We also have a separate sage-dev repository: https://launchpad.net/~aims/+archive/ubuntu/sagemath-dev If you enable both PPAs sagemath and sagemath-dev, you will get the new versions faster, and stil

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Extremely broad bug in Sage Integral Computations

2015-06-03 Thread David Joyner
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 9:40 AM, kcrisman wrote: >> >> Something is happening in the interface, yes, but >> > > Apparently sympy can't do it either (?). Here is my experiment. > Sorry, I don't see how your code below is testing Sympy. I got a wrong answer (namely, -sqrt(2), when I think a correc

[sage-devel] Re: Extremely broad bug in Sage Integral Computations

2015-06-03 Thread kcrisman
> > > So this is indeed a Maxima bug, I guess. > http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18599 > > Reported upstream at https://sourceforge.net/p/maxima/bugs/2971/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[sage-devel] Re: Extremely broad bug in Sage Integral Computations

2015-06-03 Thread kcrisman
> > > Something is happening in the interface, yes, but > > Apparently sympy can't do it either (?). Here is my experiment. sage: from sage.symbolic.integration.external import maxima_integrator sage: maxima_integrator(sqrt(cot(x)^2),x) -1/2*log(tan(x)^2 + 1) + log(tan(x)) sage: maxima_integrat

[sage-devel] SageMath ova releases: buildbot slave needed

2015-06-03 Thread Samuel Lelièvre
Just to advertise this sage-support thread https://groups.google.com/d/topic/sage-support/U0z03oPRM_g/discussion here on sage-devel and sage-release. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop rec