Re: [sage-devel] When/by who/how was the "code of conduct" initiated ?

> On 26/11/2014, at 16:43, David Roe wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:33 PM, John H Palmieri > wrote: >> I have to say, I really like the phrase "fiat accompl". > > Hah. I thought that's how the phrase "fait accompli" was spelled, but > google proves me wrong. I always thought there was

Re: [sage-devel] When/by who/how was the "code of conduct" initiated ?

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:33 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > I have to say, I really like the phrase "fiat accompl". Hah. I thought that's how the phrase "fait accompli" was spelled, but google proves me wrong. I always thought there was a connection to the word fiat David > > John > > > On

Re: [sage-devel] When/by who/how was the "code of conduct" initiated ?

I have to say, I really like the phrase "fiat accompl". John On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 7:14:21 PM UTC-8, David Roe wrote: > > I think that most people are ignoring the question because they don't > know the answer. The only person who can say for sure would be > Volker, and I don't know

Re: [sage-devel] When/by who/how was the "code of conduct" initiated ?

I think that most people are ignoring the question because they don't know the answer. The only person who can say for sure would be Volker, and I don't know why he hasn't responded. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just Volker, not a larger group of people. I don't think there's a

[sage-devel] Re: When/by who/how was the "code of conduct" initiated ?

> > I created this thread because this question was asked several times, that > I am sure everybody saw it, and that it still did not get any answer. > > Thus I am asking again, and politely despite my finding very disrespectful > to have a legitimate question ignored: who was on the short list

[sage-devel] When/by who/how was the "code of conduct" initiated ?

Hello everybody, I created this thread because this question was asked several times, that I am sure everybody saw it, and that it still did not get any answer. Thus I am asking again, and politely despite my finding very disrespectful to have a legitimate question ignored: who was on the short

[sage-devel] Re: What to do with sage-abuse

Hi! >Does anyone have another suggestion for this? William had posted this at some point in the long thread: "Since I attempted to retract this proposal in light of Volker's sensible criticism, and people keep responding as if I didn't, let me officially retract this proposal. Instead I supp

[sage-devel] Re: Cygwin(64) port status

The result of the compilation is relocatable? I mean, would it be eventually possible to have something that windows users just unzip and runs? Or would they always need to compile it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscri

Re: [sage-devel] Bug in abs(I*x).diff(x)

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:30:33 -0500 Bill Page wrote: > On 25 November 2014 at 01:11, Ondřej Čertík wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Bill Page > > wrote: ... > >> But I don't want to be forced to make a choice of branch until > >> I actually need to evaluate an expression numerically

Re: [sage-devel] Bug in abs(I*x).diff(x)

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Bill Page wrote: > On 25 November 2014 at 01:11, Ondřej Čertík wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Bill Page >> wrote: >>> ... >>> I am not very interested in real numbers. I am interested in the >>> algebra. Would you say that >>> >>> sqrt(x^2).dif

[sage-devel] Re: What to do with sage-abuse

On 2014-11-25, Harald Schilly wrote: > But in general I'm against such ad-hoc rulings This seems at odds with what is written below ... > and -- well -- my stance is that community management is a perpetual > ongoing process. There is no way how this can be codified. What's > happening is that

Re: [sage-devel] Bug in abs(I*x).diff(x)

> > > > > This discussion is about how a CAS should handle (complex) > > differentiation. Since it started here, I would finish it here, so > > that the whole thread is in one mailinglist for future reference. > > > > OK. It would be nice to know if other sage-devel subscribers actually > r

Re: [sage-devel] Bug in abs(I*x).diff(x)

On 25 November 2014 at 01:11, Ondřej Čertík wrote: > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Bill Page > wrote: >> ... >> I am not very interested in real numbers. I am interested in the >> algebra. Would you say that >> >> sqrt(x^2).diff(x) = sqrt(x^2)/x >> >> is OK? > > I think so, using the fol

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What to do with sage-abuse

On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:34:16 PM UTC+1, Nathann Cohen wrote: > > I assume that the judges will be carefully selected among the members of > the community, ... > To repeat my idea from the escalated thread: each judge could have support from the community, e.g. needs at least N supporters

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What to do with sage-abuse

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:10 PM, William Stein wrote: > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:07 AM, William Stein wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Nathann Cohen >> wrote: one of the questions that was raised by Thierry and not answered (there were other non answered questions but I'm

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What to do with sage-abuse

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:07 AM, William Stein wrote: > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Nathann Cohen > wrote: >>> one of the questions that was raised by Thierry and not answered (there >>> were other non answered questions but I'm interested in this one in >>> particular) is who is in charge

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What to do with sage-abuse

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Nathann Cohen wrote: >> one of the questions that was raised by Thierry and not answered (there >> were other non answered questions but I'm interested in this one in >> particular) is who is in charge of sage-...@googlegroups.com? The code >> stated that the "gro

[sage-devel] Re: What to do with sage-abuse

On 2014-11-25, Viviane Pons wrote: > --089e011848104c327b0508b1a1fd > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Honestly guys, > > nobody ever spoke of police and judges and jury... > > Thierry, sorry to have misused your name. At some point, you had some > concerns about a list of 12 guys takin

Re: [sage-devel] Cygwin(64) port status

Note that everything gets built, but at this point I don't promise it is really functional. Cygwin32 should be almost fully functional. Cygwin64 is very far from it (e.g. PARI builds but seems completely broken: it says 131 is not prime). Anyway getting back to a point where just typing "make"

Re: [sage-devel] Cygwin(64) port status

> > > > > With http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/15649 and > > http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17365 which need reviews and touch > > Cygwin-only code we'll (almost) have support to build Sage trivially > (type > > "make") on Cygwin (again) and Cygwin64 (for the first time). > > Only the MPIR

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What to do with sage-abuse

Honestly guys, nobody ever spoke of police and judges and jury... Thierry, sorry to have misused your name. At some point, you had some concerns about a list of 12 guys taking all the decisions and that's what raised my own concern about the the mailing list (sorry for the short-cut). Cheers Vi

Re: [sage-devel] Cygwin(64) port status

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > Hi all, > > With http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/15649 and > http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17365 which need reviews and touch > Cygwin-only code we'll (almost) have support to build Sage trivially (type > "make") on Cygwin (again) and C

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What to do with sage-abuse

Here is an additional way to preserve the community spirit: After their discussion on sage-abuse, the administrators will reach a verdict. I assume that the judges will be carefully selected among the members of the community, yet their verdict will be pronounced on behalf of the community. Hence,

Re: [sage-devel] What to do with sage-abuse

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 05:06:25PM +0100, Viviane Pons wrote: > Hi all, > > one of the questions that was raised by Thierry and not answered (there > were other non answered questions but I'm interested in this one in > particular) is who is in charge of sage-ab...@googlegroups.com? The code > st

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What to do with sage-abuse

Yes, having it public seems a good idea to me. I'm not sure about the "read-only", for me this list could be a place where you can just send a message to the community as a whole to point out a thread going out of hand. (For example, I don't read all threads, so I wouldn't always know). There is no

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What to do with sage-abuse

Err, sorry, forgot something: and of course the debates between administrators should happen on this mailing-list, or there is no point. I do not know how courts work in the US, but in France anybody can enter a court and hear what is being said. Public trials is what prevents (to some extent

[sage-devel] Re: What to do with sage-abuse

> > one of the questions that was raised by Thierry and not answered (there > were other non answered questions but I'm interested in this one in > particular) is who is in charge of sage-...@googlegroups.com > ? The code stated that the "group administrators" shall > consider the issue but I

[sage-devel] What to do with sage-abuse

Hi all, one of the questions that was raised by Thierry and not answered (there were other non answered questions but I'm interested in this one in particular) is who is in charge of sage-ab...@googlegroups.com? The code stated that the "group administrators" shall consider the issue but I find t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

> This means that the code of conduct passes, and the SageMath project > now has an official code of conduct. If you voted the other way, > please respect that this is what the majority of people who voted > want, even if the code isn't perfect. Perhaps it is now time to share with us who took t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Viviane Pons wrote: > I counted the same. Thank you. This means that the code of conduct passes, and the SageMath project now has an official code of conduct. If you voted the other way, please respect that this is what the majority of people who voted want, ev

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

I counted the same. Cheers, Viviane 2014-11-25 16:33 GMT+01:00 William Stein : > Hi, > > I just counted and I get: > > [x] Yes -- got 19 votes > [x] No -- got 15 votes + 2 late votes > > Can somebody count and confirm this? > > -- William > > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Dima Pasechnik

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

Hi, I just counted and I get: [x] Yes -- got 19 votes [x] No -- got 15 votes + 2 late votes Can somebody count and confirm this? -- William On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On 2014-11-23, William Stein wrote: >> Hello Sage Developers, >> >> This is a simple majority

[sage-devel] Cygwin(64) port status

Hi all, With http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/15649 and http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17365 which need reviews and touch Cygwin-only code we'll (almost) have support to build Sage trivially (type "make") on Cygwin (again) and Cygwin64 (for the first time). Only the MPIR update at http://trac.s

[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

On 2014-11-23, William Stein wrote: > Hello Sage Developers, > > This is a simple majority vote for the original proposed code of > conduct. I will close voting on Monday at midnight PST. (If the vote > is an exact tie, then that means "No" - there must be a simple > majority for this to pass.)

[sage-devel] Re: Code of Conduct

On 2014-11-22, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: > --089e0112ca127c6d2105087a3eb8 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On 21 Nov 2014 22:22, "Dima Pasechnik" wrote: > >> I'd say it's OK to have such a code, but it's not really OK to actively > enforce >> it. Such an active

[sage-devel] Re: Do we have a make target to clean upstream directory?

It is hard enough to clean it properly. If you have ideas, please see http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16327 On Monday, November 24, 2014 10:41:17 PM UTC+8, kcrisman wrote: > > > As time goes it gets bigger and bigger... >> > > +1 (only if it is documented properly!) > > -- You received this m

[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

[x ] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: [sage-devel] Decision making (refuse to vote)

On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:30:07 AM UTC+1, Andrew wrote: > Also, Vicent has created a wiki page > > > with the express purpose of discussing and reaching

[sage-devel] Re: Decision making (refuse to vote)

On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:17:22 AM UTC+1, Thierry (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: > > Hi again, &c. > [everything else deleted, though I agree with much, not with some] I don't know if this will reassure you, but (a) I voted no, and (b) given how William seemed to listen & change course on