Re: [sage-devel] Re: #16577: enable 0-based row/column permutation of matrices

2014-09-07 Thread Viviane Pons
I understand that you would expect the same result when calling a function on a list and on a tuple. I'm still not sure it needs to be changed: what you call a bug is obviously a feature for many people. And nevertheless, what I don't see is why you would expect the same behaviour when calling ()

Re: [sage-devel] Re: #16577: enable 0-based row/column permutation of matrices

2014-09-07 Thread Vincent Delecroix
2014-09-08 8:07 UTC+02:00, Nathann Cohen : >> When Sage does something different than what I expect, I look at the doc >> instead of wondering why it's different > > When a list becomes a tuple and all of a sudden a 10 lines functions (that > calls other functions) returns wrong answers I swear tha

Re: [sage-devel] Re: #16577: enable 0-based row/column permutation of matrices

2014-09-07 Thread Nathann Cohen
> When Sage does something different than what I expect, I look at the doc > instead of wondering why it's different When a list becomes a tuple and all of a sudden a 10 lines functions (that calls other functions) returns wrong answers I swear that you don't. Come on Travis open your eyes, this t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: #16577: enable 0-based row/column permutation of matrices

2014-09-07 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
> > > If one looks at the documentation because an exception is raised then > there is no problem. The problem occurs when the user expects > something and Sage does something else, without any error/exception. > > THIS is what costs time. The special notation for the cycle > permutation, this

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Can not add comments in trac

2014-09-07 Thread P Purkayastha
Thanks all. It was probably my (cable) internet provider. I could submit comments using my mobile connection. On 8 Sep, 2014 7:05 am, "Volker Braun" wrote: > PS: https://trac.sagemath.org/ should also work (self-signed certificate > though) > > On Monday, September 8, 2014 12:04:02 AM UTC+1, Volk

[sage-devel] Re: Can not add comments in trac

2014-09-07 Thread Volker Braun
PS: https://trac.sagemath.org/ should also work (self-signed certificate though) On Monday, September 8, 2014 12:04:02 AM UTC+1, Volker Braun wrote: > > Works for me. My guess would be that you have a not-so-transparent proxy > forced in front of you. Have you tried tunneling your browser connec

[sage-devel] Re: Can not add comments in trac

2014-09-07 Thread Volker Braun
Works for me. My guess would be that you have a not-so-transparent proxy forced in front of you. Have you tried tunneling your browser connection out? E.g. ssh -D 1234 boxen and then use localhost:1234 as socks proxy in the browser. On Sunday, September 7, 2014 11:56:49 PM UTC+1, P Purkayastha

Re: [sage-devel] Can not add comments in trac

2014-09-07 Thread Kannappan Sampath
I have seen these errors while at Chennai for Sage Days 60, but we all thought it might have to do with the network... On 07-Sep-2014, at 6:56 pm, P Purkayastha wrote: > I am unable to add comments in trac. If I login, then often the page > refreshes to a state that indicates I am not logged

[sage-devel] Can not add comments in trac

2014-09-07 Thread P Purkayastha
I am unable to add comments in trac. If I login, then often the page refreshes to a state that indicates I am not logged in. Refreshing the page sometimes shows "logged in as..", but adding a comment results in "no permission" errors (and then I am showed as logged out). Is anyone else seeing t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: #16577: enable 0-based row/column permutation of matrices

2014-09-07 Thread Nathann Cohen
>I believe in well-documented functions/methods and examples, and the > first thing I teach people about functions/methods is to look at the > documentation (which tells you that giving it two arguments is not right). > There are many functions/methods/classes where I look at the doc when I get

[sage-devel] Re: #16577: enable 0-based row/column permutation of matrices

2014-09-07 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
> I never said that, or at least I didn't mean anything like this. > I meant to say that it is insane to have a special > kind of imput for cyclic permutations: > > Permutation((1,2,3)) > > while not having anything like > > Permutation((1,2,3)(4,5)) > > In fact, you'd think ',' will do th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Building Sage fails on Lubuntu 14

2014-09-07 Thread Volker Braun
Do you have any other libgomp.so installations lying around? This seems like R was once linked against OpenMP 4, but your system OpenMP is of a different version. You can try SAGE_INSTALL_GCC=yes make to install our gcc... /home/nborie/sage-6.3/local/var/tmp/sage/build/r-3.1.1.p0/src/bin

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Building Sage fails on Lubuntu 14

2014-09-07 Thread Nicolas Borie
Le 07/09/2014 13:31, Volker Braun a écrit : I would recommend that you try to compile the latest version from source. Hello, On Lubuntu 64 bits (up to date), When trying to compile the 6.3 from sources, I just got : real13m9.547s user18m36.662s sys0m51.881s Successfully ins

[sage-devel] Re: Please review #16745

2014-09-07 Thread Volker Braun
bump On Friday, September 5, 2014 11:14:24 PM UTC+1, Volker Braun wrote: > > http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16745 > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[sage-devel] Re: Tracking Citations; How?

2014-09-07 Thread Volker Braun
If you want to cite inside a decision tree then you can't do that with a decorator. Instead of *also* having a function call syntax, we should then *only* have function call syntax. Nothing good ever came out of having two ways of achieving the same outcome. The other reason for why function cal

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Tracking Citations; How?

2014-09-07 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 11:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Bill Hart wrote: > On Saturday, 6 September 2014 20:34:56 UTC+2, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > > > Note that Cython supports cProfile these days: > > http://docs.cython.org/src/tutorial/profiling_tutorial.html > > However, that won't help too much as the real

[sage-devel] Re: pyzmq not installing

2014-09-07 Thread Anthony Savagar
Thank you for the advice. It works fine for me now. I follow your instructions and issued sudo apt-get install libzmq-dev sudo sage -i pyzmq (i then did make in the sage root directory--I was prompted to do this by the terminal output after the previous command) On Friday, September 5

[sage-devel] Re: Building Sage fails on Lubuntu 14

2014-09-07 Thread Volker Braun
I would recommend that you try to compile the latest version from source. On Sunday, September 7, 2014 6:30:23 AM UTC+1, Christophe Bal wrote: > > Helllo. > > First of all, I can't use the last binary version of Sage because of EOL > problems. See my post on the user list of sage : ? . > > So I

[sage-devel] Building Sage fails on Lubuntu 14

2014-09-07 Thread Christophe Bal
Helllo. First of all, I can't use the last binary version of Sage because of EOL problems. See my post on the user list of sage : ? . So I have decided to build an older version 6.0 hoping that will work but the compilation from the source has given the error: ** Error building

[sage-devel] Re: #16577: enable 0-based row/column permutation of matrices

2014-09-07 Thread 'Martin R' via sage-devel
Hi there! Do I understand correctly, that this patch only concerns how permutations act on matrices, and that this is defined in the matrix class? If so, I think that I wouldn't expect "standard permutations" (i.e., permutations of 1,...,n) to work - unless of course there is a matrix class wi

[sage-devel] Re: Trac update

2014-09-07 Thread Maarten Derickx
Hi Andrew, Thanks for upgrading. Recently we received a request on the sage-trac-account to reset a forgotten password, and it seems that it is no longer possible to use the webpage: http://trac.sagemath.org/admin/accounts/users to change user account (there used to be an "update" button next