Re: [sage-devel] On scientific computing, Python and Julia

2014-08-20 Thread Erik Massop
Dear RJF, Dear list, This was an interesting read and I have learnt some things: * I wrongly assumed floating point in computer context to mean sign bit, fixed range for mantissa, fixed range for exponent, special cases for -inf, +inf, +0, -0, nan. * I think Sage's RealField(prec) is more accur

Re: [sage-devel] On scientific computing, Python and Julia

2014-08-20 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 4:47 PM, rjf wrote: > > On Saturday, August 9, 2014 7:35:13 PM UTC-7, Erik Massop wrote: > >> In fact I don't >> expect addition, negation, multiplication, or subtraction to be exact >> either. Indeed, they are not exact: >> sage: a = 1e-58 >> sage: a >> 1.000

Re: [sage-devel] On scientific computing, Python and Julia

2014-08-20 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 6:57 PM, rjf wrote: > > > On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:55:37 PM UTC-7, Robert Bradshaw wrote: >> >> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:02 AM, rjf wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 8:11:21 PM UTC-7, Robert Bradshaw wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The are two represen

Re: [sage-devel] On scientific computing, Python and Julia

2014-08-20 Thread Bill Hart
By the way, when reading the names sage gives to various implemented things, you should always realise that they are abbreviations. PowerSeriesRing is an abbreviation for ComputableModelOfAPowerSeriesRingCheckDocumentationForDetailsAndOptions. The lack of transitivity of equality in sage does b

Re: [sage-devel] On scientific computing, Python and Julia

2014-08-20 Thread rjf
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 7:08:24 PM UTC-7, Bill Hart wrote: > > You didn't tell us the answers to the riddles. Or did I miss them. > > oops/ 4 legs. calling the tail a leg doesn't make it a leg. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel

Re: [sage-devel] On scientific computing, Python and Julia

2014-08-20 Thread Bill Hart
You didn't tell us the answers to the riddles. Or did I miss them. On Thursday, 21 August 2014 01:47:04 UTC+2, rjf wrote: > > > > On Saturday, August 9, 2014 7:35:13 PM UTC-7, Erik Massop wrote: >> >> >> > > >> Similarly I would call RealField(prec) a field, because it represents >> the fi

[sage-devel] Re: Equality, hashing and polynomial rings

2014-08-20 Thread Nils Bruin
On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 12:13:07 PM UTC-7, Simon King wrote: > > I think this would make sense---of course with bidirectional coercions, > as mentioned in my previous mail. > Bidirectional coercion implies memory leak: The strong references to the codomains on the coercion maps will keep

Re: [sage-devel] On scientific computing, Python and Julia

2014-08-20 Thread rjf
On Saturday, August 9, 2014 7:35:13 PM UTC-7, Erik Massop wrote: > > > > Similarly I would call RealField(prec) a field, because it represents > the field of real numbers (e.g. Dedekind cuts). At the same time I am > sure that some mathematical properties that I know from the mathematic

Re: [sage-devel] On scientific computing, Python and Julia

2014-08-20 Thread rjf
Sorry I've been away for a week, and sorry for quoting so much of Erik's note. It is unusual for me to disagree with virtually EVERY statement in such a large collection. Obviously we have different contexts for almost everything. Now I would not say "violent disagreement" because almost ea

[sage-devel] what is the plot3D viewer used in sagemath cloud

2014-08-20 Thread Frédéric Chapoton
Hello, I am trying in #12212 to allow plotting colored 3D surfaces. http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/12212 So far, progress has been done on jmol, tachyon and canvas3D viewers. Does anybody know what is the viewer used in sagemath cloud ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[sage-devel] Re: Trac Server timing out

2014-08-20 Thread kcrisman
> > Hello group: > > Is the trac server down just for me? I have been unable to pull from the > trac for quite sometime now. I always get: > > $ git pull trac develop > fatal: unable to connect to trac.sagemath.org: > trac.sagemath.org[0: 128.208.178.249]: errno=Connection timed out > > Any help

Re: [sage-devel] Re: RuntimeError: ECL says: Module error: Don't know how to REQUIRE MAXIMA.

2014-08-20 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-08-19 23:42, Peter Bruin wrote: Bonjour Sébastien, I get the below regression with 6.3 (compare to 6.3.beta3). Strange error no? This kind of error can happen when ECL is upgraded but Maxima is not reinstalled. In that case, "sage -f maxima" will probably solve it. If you build Sage

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: H2020: Mathematics and Digital Science

2014-08-20 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Well, I agree that this should be a priority, but you don't know that it won't happen. This online discussion is set up by Europe to decide on the topic of a workshop that will take place on 6/7 November. Once the topics are decided, the main goal in the workshop itself will be to decide on funding

[sage-devel] Re: H2020: Mathematics and Digital Science

2014-08-20 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:34:58 PM UTC+2, Paul-Olivier Dehaye wrote: > > This might be of interest to the sage communities > https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/node/72901/subscribe > > What I would really like them to do is to even more strengthen their bias towards "openess". They ad

[sage-devel] H2020: Mathematics and Digital Science

2014-08-20 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
This might be of interest to the sage communities https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/node/72901/subscribe Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich http://user.math.uzh.ch/dehaye/contact_info.txt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to