Re: [sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-20 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi I am suprised at these not being contained in sage: 0 root@kontiki:/usr/lib/sagemath/local/bin#for i in *; do ldd $i | egrep ' /lib|/usr/lib' |grep readline && echo $i; done libreadline.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libreadline.so.6 (0x7f83abbea000) gp libreadline.so.6 => /lib/x86_6

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How to make scilab available to sage (editing PATH)?

2014-04-20 Thread Stephen Kauffman
Thanks. My command line skills leave much to be desired. On 4/18/2014 6:32 AM, Dominique Laurain wrote: > Note : In the cloud, you will not be "root" but one project-user (run > command whoami)...but my next answer is valid with any UNIX-Linux user ... > > To set PATH using terminal command line

Re: [sage-devel] Difficulty with Galois group

2014-04-20 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Apr 19, 2014, at 14:16 , Michael Welsh wrote: > On 20/04/2014, at 0853, Justin C. Walker wrote: >> >> it means that you can't. I don't recall when Apple stopped supporting >> Rosetta (the mechanism used to run PPC code on x86 CPUs). It's available on >> 10.6, but it's definitely not on 1

[sage-devel] Re: Directions for idioms of free objects and free abelian groups

2014-04-20 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:53:55 AM UTC-7, Simon King wrote: > > Hi John, > > On 2014-04-20, John H Palmieri > wrote: > > For the sake of tab completion, and for consistency with how other > groups > > are accessed, you should be able to do "groups.free(...)" also. Without > > this and with

[sage-devel] Re: Directions for idioms of free objects and free abelian groups

2014-04-20 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
Hey John, IndexedFreeAbelianGroup is also introduced in the ticket. Mainly I want to use this to create polynomial rings with arbitrarily indexed variables (well any ring with a monomial basis whose variables can be ordered, my particular usage will be universal enveloping algebras of a Lie a

[sage-devel] Re: Directions for idioms of free objects and free abelian groups

2014-04-20 Thread Simon King
Hi John, On 2014-04-20, John H Palmieri wrote: > For the sake of tab completion, and for consistency with how other groups > are accessed, you should be able to do "groups.free(...)" also. Without > this and with just Groups().free(...), it might be hard to figure out how > to create free grou

Re: [sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-20 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi Ok, so far I have this: Depends: ${misc:Depends}, ${shlibs:Depends}, libc6, libexpat1, libfontconfig1, libfreetype6, libgcc1, libgd2-xpm, libgmp10, libgmpxx4ldbl, libgsl0ldbl, libjpeg-turbo8, libmpfr4, libpng12-0, libppl13, libppl-c4, libpython2.7, libreadline6, libsqlite3-0, libssl1.0.0, libs

Re: [sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-20 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi On 20 April 2014 14:50, leif wrote: > My impression is that at least /some/ Sage developers prefer to use the > PPA (or pre-built binaries) on their netbooks or (low-end) notebooks. And > on ARM machines ... X-) > Actually, the PPA does not host ARM... only i386 and amd64. Or am I missing s

[sage-devel] Re: Directions for idioms of free objects and free abelian groups

2014-04-20 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:22:59 PM UTC-7, Travis Scrimshaw wrote: > > Hey everyone, >On http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/15289 I'm implementing monoids and > groups indexed by an arbitrary set of generators and Nicolas and I would > like your input on some possible idioms. > > * Is anyone

[sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-20 Thread leif
Jan Groenewald wrote: On 20 April 2014 14:50, leif mailto:not.rea...@online.de>> wrote: P.S.: Beat the Ubuntu guys for not releasing fixed versions of Ubuntu/Linaro GCC 4.6.3 for Precise. (They still ship the broken 1ubuntu5 IIRC, although the fixes had been there two years ago.)

[sage-devel] Building Sage with GCC 4.9

2014-04-20 Thread leif
Is there already a ticket for issues with GCC 4.9? (Release of 4.9.0 is scheduled for Tuesday, so we'll presumably face it soon in some distros.) Depending on when Sage 6.2 gets released, we may also release some 6.1.2 with only fixes for the new GCC version. So far, Lcalc doesn't build wi

Re: [sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-20 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi On 20 April 2014 14:50, leif wrote: > Jan Groenewald wrote: > >> On 19 April 2014 17:15, leif > > wrote: >> >> Depends: build-essential, gfortran [probably also m4] >> >> >> Are build-essential and m4 not only from-source build dependencies? I >> would maybe

[sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-20 Thread leif
Jan Groenewald wrote: On 19 April 2014 17:15, leif mailto:not.rea...@online.de>> wrote: Depends: build-essential, gfortran [probably also m4] Are build-essential and m4 not only from-source build dependencies? I would maybe move them to Suggests: Is there runtime functionality, a function

Re: [sage-devel] Difficulty with Galois group

2014-04-20 Thread Michael Welsh
On 20/04/2014, at 0853, Justin C. Walker wrote: > > it means that you can't. I don't recall when Apple stopped supporting > Rosetta (the mechanism used to run PPC code on x86 CPUs). It's available on > 10.6, but it's definitely not on 10.9 (Mavericks). 10.7. -- You received this message be

Re: [sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-20 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi And is this still relevent? Perhaps for Suggests? http://www.sagemath.org/doc/faq/faq-usage.html#how-to-get-sage-s-python-to-recognize-my-system-s-tcl-tk-install Regards, Jan On 20 April 2014 11:22, Jan Groenewald wrote: > Hi Leif, > > Thanks for the suggestions. > > (I've uploaded a PPA

Re: [sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-20 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi Leif, Thanks for the suggestions. (I've uploaded a PPA only with ffmpeg removed, from a sage-support message which prompted this. ffmpeg is no longer in trusty and so the previous package could not be installed on trusty.) On 19 April 2014 17:15, leif wrote: > Depends: build-essential, gfor