Hi Leif, Thanks for the suggestions.
(I've uploaded a PPA only with ffmpeg removed, from a sage-support message which prompted this. ffmpeg is no longer in trusty and so the previous package could not be installed on trusty.) On 19 April 2014 17:15, leif <not.rea...@online.de> wrote: > Depends: build-essential, gfortran [probably also m4] > Are build-essential and m4 not only from-source build dependencies? I would maybe move them to Suggests: Is there runtime functionality, a function you would call in the notebook, that would need build-essential and m4? Note the PPA is not ideal for installing optional packages. The relevant folders are owned by root, so the sage -i must be run as root, which is bad practice. > (gfortran already depends on libgfortran3.) > Right, gfortran and (or only) libgfortran are runtime dependencies for some functionality? It looks like it suggests on gfortran-multilib which depends on libgfortran-4.8-multilib, 0 jan@osprey:~$apt-cache depends gfortran|grep lib Suggests: gfortran-multilib 0 jan@osprey:~$apt-cache depends gfortran-multilib|grep lib gfortran-multilib Depends: gcc-multilib Depends: gfortran-4.8-multilib Conflicts: gfortran-multilib:i386 0 jan@osprey:~$apt-cache depends gfortran-4.8-multilib|grep lib gfortran-4.8-multilib Depends: gcc-4.8-multilib Depends: lib32gfortran-4.8-dev Depends: libx32gfortran-4.8-dev Conflicts: gfortran-4.8-multilib:i386 0 jan@osprey:~$ > and, depending on one's taste: > > Recommends: openssh-client, imagemagick, ffmpeg > ffmpeg is not ideal for Recommends, since apt-get/software-centre installs that by default (afaik), and ffmpeg is no longer in trusty. Can libav-tools be a Suggests? Does it provide the functionality? Are there runtime functionalities, that is functions that will not work if imagemagick and openssh-client is not installed? Suggests: dvipng, texlive, texlive-pictures, icedtea-7-plugin | > icedtea-plugin > I'd go for Recommends for these too. Is there a preference for icedtea 6 or 7? Looks like the default dependency of icedtea-plugin has moved to 7 in trusty (or before, but precise defaulted to 6). (Note that openssh-client already depends on OpenSSL. We could still > require it, but then I'd use libssl-dev.) > I think libssl1 should at least be Suggests and perhaps Recommends. The PPA is really meant for a stanadalone laptop, not a server, but we teach our students how to start a secure server when SSHing into a computer lab desktop so they can connect from their laptop, which might become a general use case for us, or for example, to connect from a tablet. Perhaps move the icedtea-plugin to "Recommended". > If some graphics (3d? jmol?) depend on icedtea, it should definitely be in Recommends: Don't know what else we could /add/ (that isn't already contained in the > Sage binary). > > Probably suggest or recommend (a system-wide) git[-core]. > The PPA is not really meant for developers, but I guess that is fine. I certainly run the PPA and a from source next to each other to compare when there are bugs. I might be the only one. > In the future, I'd also require libreadline-dev, but unfortunately > currently Sage doesn't even try to use a system-wide one (instead of its > meanwhile outdated version 6.2, asking for trouble at least on other > distros like Arch Linux and OpenSuSE). > I feel like all of these should move to Recommends, so they get installed by default through the apt-get and software centre, but a sysadm could --without-recommends them if they want. I previously felt x-www-browser should perhaps also be a recommends. Though ubuntu-desktop already includes that, bash, etc. (trivial dependencies). But perhaps for ubuntu-server... though then you don't need the browser on the server. A server may have too much customization (ldap backend? optional packages?) to use the PPA. OK, but not now... Note, the only Build-Depends for the PPA DEB package, is actually only debhelper. It really just copies a compiled binary into place, as one would wiht a binary pacakge. The PPA is a stopgap for a few years until debianization is complete ;) It was way to hard to make a sagemath-monolithic that actually builds all the components through a debian rules file. And that is REALLY not the debian way. Regards, Jan -- .~. /V\ Jan Groenewald /( )\ www.aims.ac.za ^^-^^ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
