Re: [sage-devel] Re: How to proceed to reduce Sage's memory leaking?

2012-11-15 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-11-14 23:34, Nils Bruin wrote: > On Nov 14, 11:28 am, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: >> FYI: it's a Fedora 16 system with an Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.60GHz >> processor running Linux 3.3.7-1.fc16.x86_64. > > That sounded convenient because my desktop is similar: > > Fedora 16 running 3.6.5-2.f

[sage-devel] Re: Conventions for writing documentation

2012-11-15 Thread P Purkayastha
To avoid this dichotomy, I would suggest writing in language if ``x`` equals zero. On 11/16/2012 06:14 AM, Volker Braun wrote: For code (if it makes sense to type it into Sage), use double quotes. ``self``, ``x==0``. For math, use single quotes `x=0`, On Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:09:

[sage-devel] Re: Conventions for writing documentation

2012-11-15 Thread kcrisman
On Thursday, November 15, 2012 3:06:48 PM UTC-5, Travis Scrimshaw wrote: > > Hey, >From my understanding there is a lot of documentation put in before the > current standards were set (for example, look at how many > Yup, and unless someone wants to update ALL the doc at once with this and

[sage-devel] Re: Conventions for writing documentation

2012-11-15 Thread Volker Braun
For code (if it makes sense to type it into Sage), use double quotes. ``self``, ``x==0``. For math, use single quotes `x=0`, On Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:09:58 PM UTC-5, Charles Bouillaguet wrote: > > Hi, > > Skimming over the reference manual, it seems that there is no clear > standa

Re: [sage-devel] Sage Days in Bobo-Dioulasso debriefing; Sage in developping countries

2012-11-15 Thread Volker Braun
On Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:56:44 PM UTC-5, Thierry (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: > Also, SAGE_FAT_BINARY essentially means "pick reasonable defaults on > non-museum hardware for the sage binary tarball". The only bug is that the > variable has a strange name for historical reasons. As o

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Days in Bobo-Dioulasso debriefing; Sage in developping countries

2012-11-15 Thread Jason Grout
On 11/15/12 3:22 PM, Andrea Lazzarotto wrote: 2012/11/14 Jason Grout mailto:jason-s...@creativetrax.com>> I'm curious: how does the software selection compare to, for example, mathbuntu (http://www.mathbuntu.org/ ), particularly the math packages? I jus

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage Days in Bobo-Dioulasso debriefing; Sage in developping countries

2012-11-15 Thread parisse
But then why should developing countries use an old, buggy and proprietary > software when they can get for free modern, top class open source operating > systems? :) > > Because they are used to work with windows, they don't know linux and they don't know someone who can explain how to use it

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage Days in Bobo-Dioulasso debriefing; Sage in developping countries

2012-11-15 Thread Andrea Lazzarotto
2012/11/14 Jason Grout > I'm curious: how does the software selection compare to, for example, > mathbuntu (http://www.mathbuntu.org/), particularly the math packages? > I just tried, that distro does NOT contain Sage, just a link to the Sage Notebook. -- *Andrea Lazzarotto* - http://andrealaz

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage Days in Bobo-Dioulasso debriefing; Sage in developping countries

2012-11-15 Thread Andrea Lazzarotto
2012/11/15 parisse > But perhaps I'm wrong and you also spread the word that some good > open-source math softwares run on say Windows XP (or even Windows 98). But then why should developing countries use an old, buggy and proprietary software when they can get for free modern, top class open s

[sage-devel] Re: Conventions for writing documentation

2012-11-15 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
Hey, From my understanding there is a lot of documentation put in before the current standards were set (for example, look at how many functions do not have any documentation). My personal belief is that it should always be ``self``, ``True``, and ``False`` when they are consider as code (ex.

Re: [sage-devel] Sage Days in Bobo-Dioulasso debriefing; Sage in developping countries

2012-11-15 Thread Thierry
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 09:42:04AM -0800, Volker Braun wrote: > The new ATLAS http://trac.sagemath.org/10508 has additional "generic" > archdefs and these are used with SAGE_FAT_BINARY now. > > Also, SAGE_FAT_BINARY essentially means "pick reasonable defaults on > non-museum hardware for the sa

Re: [sage-devel] Conventions for writing documentation

2012-11-15 Thread Raniere Gaia Silva
Charles, > Skimming over the reference manual, it seems that there is no clear > standard regarding how to write some things. For instance, sometimes self > is double-quoted (``self``), sometimes it isn't. Sometimes True and False > are double-quoted, sometimes not. Sometimes the name of arguments

[sage-devel] Conventions for writing documentation

2012-11-15 Thread Charles Bouillaguet
Hi, Skimming over the reference manual, it seems that there is no clear standard regarding how to write some things. For instance, sometimes self is double-quoted (``self``), sometimes it isn't. Sometimes True and False are double-quoted, sometimes not. Sometimes the name of arguments (say, x)

[sage-devel] Re: analytic_rank() discussed on mathoverflow

2012-11-15 Thread Nils Bruin
On Nov 13, 1:26 am, John Cremona wrote: > No, you do not miss anything.  As someone has already reminded us (and > I say clearly in the talk for which those are the slides), there is no > known way of proving that the 3rd (or higher) derivative of an > elliptic curve L-function is 0.  Any computat

Re: [sage-devel] Sage Days in Bobo-Dioulasso debriefing; Sage in developping countries

2012-11-15 Thread Volker Braun
The new ATLAS http://trac.sagemath.org/10508 has additional "generic" archdefs and these are used with SAGE_FAT_BINARY now. Also, SAGE_FAT_BINARY essentially means "pick reasonable defaults on non-museum hardware for the sage binary tarball". The only bug is that the variable has a strange nam

[sage-devel] Re: Access to SPARC 64

2012-11-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2012-11-14, Ondřej Čertík wrote: > Hi, > > I am a release manager for the next NumPy release (1.7) and we have > one bug that only shows > on SPARC 64, see below for details. There are such machines on skynet, e.g. mark. -bash-3.00$ uname -a SunOS mark 5.10 Generic_127111-01 sun4u sparc SUNW,Su

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Days in Bobo-Dioulasso debriefing; Sage in developping countries

2012-11-15 Thread parisse
Le dimanche 11 novembre 2012 10:00:42 UTC+1, Nicolas M. Thiéry a écrit : > > > That was a good occasion for a real-life evaluation of a claim I have > been desiring to make for a long time: �Sage, being open-source, is > well adapted for universities in developing countries�. >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Days in Bobo-Dioulasso debriefing; Sage in developping countries

2012-11-15 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sunday, November 11, 2012 10:00:42 AM UTC+1, Nicolas M. Thiéry wrote: > > - Having more Sage mirrors in Africa (although the network issues were > more in the last kilometer). > Hi, thank's for this detailed report and the discussion. I'm somewhat responsible for the mirror network, and

Re: [sage-devel] Sage Days in Bobo-Dioulasso debriefing; Sage in developping countries

2012-11-15 Thread Thierry (sage-googlesucks@xxx)
Hi, Le lundi 12 novembre 2012 10:31:52 UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer a écrit : > On 2012-11-11 10:00, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > > - Precompiled binary for Linux: besides the usual distro-specific > > binaries, it would be very helpful to have two (32bit / 64bit) fat > > Sage binaries that would work w