Re: [sage-devel] Policy on spkgs updates

2012-10-15 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-10-16 08:17, Paul-Olivier Dehaye wrote: > Is it always encouraged to upgrade spkgs to more current stable > upstream version? No. I'd say it's neither encouraged nor discouraged. Usually patching a package is easier than updating to the latest upstream version. Sometimes upstream upgrade

[sage-devel] Re: Removing pickles from the pickle jar?

2012-10-15 Thread Andrew Mathas
Hi Simon, > > If I understand correctly, we are talking here about "modifying" in the > sense of "removing stuff". IMHO, it would be totally > against the purpose of the pickle jar, if we would encourage (or just > explain how) to remove stuff from the pickle jar. > > If the pickle jar doc te

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Removing pickles from the pickle jar?

2012-10-15 Thread David Roe
> Here is my vote: You may add stuff to the pickle jar. But please do not > remove stuff from the pickle jar. > +1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe fr

Re: [sage-devel] Policy on spkgs updates

2012-10-15 Thread Michael Welsh
On 16/10/2012, at 7:17 PM, Paul-Olivier Dehaye wrote: > Is it always encouraged to upgrade spkgs to more current stable > upstream version? > Right now scipy is at 0.9, applied with patches to fix a bug that is > now corrected in version 0.11 (normally, I have not tested yet). The > patch does no

[sage-devel] Policy on spkgs updates

2012-10-15 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Is it always encouraged to upgrade spkgs to more current stable upstream version? Right now scipy is at 0.9, applied with patches to fix a bug that is now corrected in version 0.11 (normally, I have not tested yet). The patch does not seem to work under Mac OS X 10.8, so I was wondering if instead

[sage-devel] Re: Removing pickles from the pickle jar?

2012-10-15 Thread Simon King
Hi Andrew, On 2012-10-15, Andrew Mathas wrote: > It would help if there was some good (or even bad) documentation available > which described how to update the pickle jar. > As far as I am aware this is > not covered in the developers guide, or anywhere else. If I understand correctly, we are

Re: [sage-devel] Removing pickles from the pickle jar?

2012-10-15 Thread Andrew Mathas
I was the person who updated the pickle jar in trac 9265. Like Jeroen, "I personally don't know much about the pickle jar in Sage", but I was given some instructions about what to do which came down to set SAGE_PICKLE_JAR,untar the pickle jar and copy the new pickles in, and tar the jar up agai

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SearchForest and post_process...

2012-10-15 Thread Sébastien Labbé
Hi, I really like SearchForest and have been using it some times. But, other times, my children rules are such that two disctinct branches overlap. So, just last weekend, I coded a similar SearchGraph class taking as input a set of roots and a children rule where an element can be obtained in

Re: [sage-devel] optional doctests

2012-10-15 Thread John Cremona
> How about that... > >> ("Fails" in the sense that something >> does work whil the doctest is written with the assumtption that it >> will not). Is it possible that you can change that example to an >> equivalent one with a curve of conductor much greater then 30? PS: http://www.lmfdb.org/E

Re: [sage-devel] optional doctests

2012-10-15 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 9:23 AM, John Cremona wrote: > On 15 October 2012 17:15, Robert Bradshaw > wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 AM, John Cremona wrote: >>> 1. In the Developers' Guide >>> http://www.sagemath.org/doc/developer/conventions.html regarding >>> optional doctests it says >>

Re: [sage-devel] optional doctests

2012-10-15 Thread John Cremona
On 15 October 2012 17:15, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 AM, John Cremona wrote: >> 1. In the Developers' Guide >> http://www.sagemath.org/doc/developer/conventions.html regarding >> optional doctests it says >> >> "Mark a doctest as optional if it requires optional package

Re: [sage-devel] optional doctests

2012-10-15 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 AM, John Cremona wrote: > 1. In the Developers' Guide > http://www.sagemath.org/doc/developer/conventions.html regarding > optional doctests it says > > "Mark a doctest as optional if it requires optional packages; even > better, mark it as optional - PKG_NAME if it re

Re: [sage-devel] Removing pickles from the pickle jar?

2012-10-15 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
Some comments from the relevant tickets: from Volker Braun: > You are not supposed to update the pickle jar, it is only here to ensure > backward compatibility. If at all possible, you should be using the > register_unpickle_override to work around the change and unpickle into the > new class.

[sage-devel] Re: Sage can't find Python on ARM?

2012-10-15 Thread jaebond
On Monday, October 15, 2012 1:17:57 AM UTC-4, Johan Grönqvist wrote: > > 2012-10-15 01:36, jaebond skrev: > > On Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:09:25 AM UTC-4, Johan Gr�nqvist wrote: > > > > "gcc -v" can tell you what you have ; in my case the target is > > arm-linux-gnueabihf. > > I ran

[sage-devel] Re: optional doctests

2012-10-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 15 October 2012 19:22:26 UTC+8, John Cremona wrote: > > 1. In the Developers' Guide > http://www.sagemath.org/doc/developer/conventions.html regarding > optional doctests it says > > "Mark a doctest as optional if it requires optional packages; even > better, mark it as optional - P

[sage-devel] optional doctests

2012-10-15 Thread John Cremona
1. In the Developers' Guide http://www.sagemath.org/doc/developer/conventions.html regarding optional doctests it says "Mark a doctest as optional if it requires optional packages; even better, mark it as optional - PKG_NAME if it requires the package PKG_NAME." I think this is not strong enough,

[sage-devel] Re: Removing pickles from the pickle jar?

2012-10-15 Thread Simon King
Hi Jeroen, On 2012-10-15, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > But > #9265 does exactly that: it removes some old pickles because they failed > to unpickle in the new version. Since I don't know much about the > pickle jar, I don't have an opinion on this. But if there is objection > on #9265, it will need

[sage-devel] Removing pickles from the pickle jar?

2012-10-15 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
I personally don't know much about the pickle jar in Sage, apart that it's the tarball pickle_jar/pickle_jar.tar.bz2 in extcode(*). I thought it was meant to test unpickling of old pickles, which would mean that one normally should not remove pickles from the jar. But #9265 does exactly that: it