[sage-devel] sip package - optional or experimental

2012-06-13 Thread Rajeev Singh
Hi, I was going through the list of optional and experimental packages for Sage and discovered that sip appears twice (different versions) - Optional - sip-4.13.2.p0 Experimental - sip-4.9.3 Do we need both of these or can we do away with the experimental one? If we can remove the experimental o

Re: [sage-devel] Reference manual broken in sagemath.org

2012-06-13 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Jeroen, On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: >> Thank you very much for the report. The problem has been fixed now. > Do you know what happened before, what went wrong? It has to do with the memory consumption of Sphinx. The HTML version of the reference manual refused to

Re: [sage-devel] Sage Days Ideas

2012-06-13 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Dan, On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Dan Drake wrote: > I dunno if this would be an "awesome" Sage Days, or if I should/can run > it, but at the recent Sage Days, we had the idea of getting some Sphinx > devs to come so we can get them to reduce Sphinx's memory consumption > and get it to bu

Re: [sage-devel] Reference manual broken in sagemath.org

2012-06-13 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-06-14 07:21, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 1:24 PM, P Purkayastha wrote: >> Reference manual broken in sagemath.org >> For instance: >> http://sagemath.org/doc/reference/sage/symbolic/expression.html >> http://sagemath.org/doc/reference/index.html > > Thank you ver

Re: [sage-devel] atlas recompiles while upgrading

2012-06-13 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-06-14 07:12, Rajeev Singh wrote: > Hi, > > Why does atlas recompile if I upgrade sage using - > > $ sage -upgrade > > even though atlas has not been updated? Because some *dependency* of ATLAS has been updated. Could be MPIR for example. > Is it really necessary? Probably not. -- To

Re: [sage-devel] Reference manual broken in sagemath.org

2012-06-13 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi, On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 1:24 PM, P Purkayastha wrote: > Reference manual broken in sagemath.org > For instance: > http://sagemath.org/doc/reference/sage/symbolic/expression.html > http://sagemath.org/doc/reference/index.html Thank you very much for the report. The problem has been fixed now

[sage-devel] atlas recompiles while upgrading

2012-06-13 Thread Rajeev Singh
Hi, Why does atlas recompile if I upgrade sage using - $ sage -upgrade even though atlas has not been updated? This increases the time of upgrade by a lot. Is it really necessary? Rajeev -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, sen

[sage-devel] Re: Proposed solution to Maxima precision problem

2012-06-13 Thread rjf
oh, just a note on precision in Maxima with bigfloats. If you have 2 numbers of precision N and M, and you add them together, the resulting number will be of precision K where K is the global value of the specified precision. this is fpprec [in decimal, approximately] or ?fpprec in binar

[sage-devel] Re: Proposed solution to Maxima precision problem

2012-06-13 Thread rjf
If you want a Sage number X of n (binary) bits precision to be converted to a Maxima bigfloat of n bits, then you can do this. First in Sage compute Xrat which is an exact rational that is equal to X. It could be computed by something like (some integer) times 2^(some power): then in maxima,

[sage-devel] Re: Proposed solution to Maxima precision problem

2012-06-13 Thread Eviatar
Here's a possible way to solve the precision problems with Maxima. This replaces RealNumbers and RealLiterals with variables before simplifying an Expression. from sage.symbolic.expression_conversions import Converter class DoNothing(Converter): def arithmetic(self, ex, operator): r

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Trac is slow and now it's affecting patchbot

2012-06-13 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Nils Bruin wrote: > On Jun 13, 11:35 am, William Stein wrote: >> For "fun", I just did >> >>    /etc/init.d/apache2 restart >>    /etc/init.d/postgresql restart >> >> which might impact something... > > Has anyone checked trac's logs to see *why* trac is slow? Wit

Re: [sage-devel] Sage (tm)

2012-06-13 Thread rjf
On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 8:55:23 AM UTC-7, Starx wrote: > > > Mathxy > > -1 > > > I have discussed the name "Sage" with an actual lawyer, and if nothing > > else he convinced me that the sort of discussion going on in this > > thread about the name is naive. As I like the name "Sage", I'

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Trac is slow and now it's affecting patchbot

2012-06-13 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: > Benjamin Jones writes: >> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Starx wrote: To fix the patchbot problem, you can always run a patchbot instance yourself on this particular ticket and the new results will show up. >>> >>> Can I?  I

[sage-devel] Re: Trac is slow and now it's affecting patchbot

2012-06-13 Thread Nils Bruin
On Jun 13, 11:35 am, William Stein wrote: > For "fun", I just did > >    /etc/init.d/apache2 restart >    /etc/init.d/postgresql restart > > which might impact something... Has anyone checked trac's logs to see *why* trac is slow? With fully automated things like patchbots, it wouldn't surprise m

[sage-devel] Re: Trac is slow and now it's affecting patchbot

2012-06-13 Thread Keshav Kini
Benjamin Jones writes: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Starx wrote: >>> To fix the patchbot problem, you can always run a patchbot >>> instance yourself on this particular ticket and the new results will >>> show up. >> >> Can I?  I assumed I would need some kind of admin access to fiddle >> w

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question/Poll on 3D plot behavior

2012-06-13 Thread Jonathan Gutow
On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:40 AM, William Stein wrote: >> >> >> From my perspective as a Java application developer, the Oracle Java is the >> official version and we work hard to maintain compatibility with that. It >> is up to the IcedTea people to have IcedTea be equivalent. > > I'm glad Javasc

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question/Poll on 3D plot behavior

2012-06-13 Thread Jonathan Gutow
On Jun 13, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Jonathan wrote: > Testing on Win 7: > > IE7: Static image displays. Clicking on the make interactive button gives > the warning dialog about "many" of the advanced features not working and that OOPS! I meant IE9. Previous tests on IE7 and 8 give some func

Re: [sage-devel] Trac is slow and now it's affecting patchbot

2012-06-13 Thread Benjamin Jones
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Starx wrote: >> To fix the patchbot problem, you can always run a patchbot >> instance yourself on this particular ticket and the new results will >> show up. > > Can I?  I assumed I would need some kind of admin access to fiddle > with patchbot.  How does one do t

Re: [sage-devel] Trac is slow and now it's affecting patchbot

2012-06-13 Thread Starx
> To fix the patchbot problem, you can always run a patchbot > instance yourself on this particular ticket and the new results will > show up. Can I? I assumed I would need some kind of admin access to fiddle with patchbot. How does one do this? -Jim On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Benjamin

[sage-devel] Re: Question/Poll on 3D plot behavior

2012-06-13 Thread kcrisman
On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:20:24 AM UTC-4, Jonathan wrote: > > Testing on Win 7: > > IE7: Static image displays. Clicking on the make interactive button gives > the warning dialog about "many" of the advanced features not working and > that the user should change browsers. Then nothing ha

Re: [sage-devel] Trac is slow and now it's affecting patchbot

2012-06-13 Thread Benjamin Jones
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Starx wrote: > Trac has been very slow for me these last few days and now it's cause > patchbot to fail on one of my patches: > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12630 > > So two questions: > > 1) Is trac slow for anyone else?  Can something be done? > 2)

Re: [sage-devel] Trac is slow and now it's affecting patchbot

2012-06-13 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:30 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 8:53:03 AM UTC-7, Starx wrote: >> >> Trac has been very slow for me these last few days and now it's cause >> patchbot to fail on one of my patches: >> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12630 >> >> S

Re: [sage-devel] Trac is slow and now it's affecting patchbot

2012-06-13 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 8:53:03 AM UTC-7, Starx wrote: > > Trac has been very slow for me these last few days and now it's cause > patchbot to fail on one of my patches: > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12630 > > So two questions: > > 1) Is trac slow for anyone else? Can somet

Re: [sage-devel] Re: upgrade of networkx spkg (to get Bellman-Ford algorithm)

2012-06-13 Thread Javier López Peña
The failing tests in graph.py are due to a minor API change in the betweenness_centrality function. They get fixed by replacing {{{ return networkx.betweenness_centrality(self.networkx_graph(copy=False), normalized) }}} in line 3252 of SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage-main/sage/graphs/graph.py by {{{

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question/Poll on 3D plot behavior

2012-06-13 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Jonathan wrote: > > On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:41:45 AM UTC-5, P Purkayastha wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:24:09 AM UTC+8, Jonathan wrote: >>> >>> Test server at http://gutow.no-ip.org:8080 is up again. >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:31:

[sage-devel] Re: Question/Poll on 3D plot behavior

2012-06-13 Thread Jonathan
On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:41:45 AM UTC-5, P Purkayastha wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:24:09 AM UTC+8, Jonathan wrote: >> >> Test server at http://gutow.no-ip.org:8080 is up again. >> >> On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:31:27 PM UTC-5, Eviatar wrote: >>> >>> The applet does work on I

Re: [sage-devel] Sage (tm)

2012-06-13 Thread Starx
> Mathxy -1 > I have discussed the name "Sage" with an actual lawyer, and if nothing > else he convinced me that the sort of discussion going on in this > thread about the name is naive. As I like the name "Sage", I'm > personally only interested in name change discussions with an actual > lawy

[sage-devel] Trac is slow and now it's affecting patchbot

2012-06-13 Thread Starx
Trac has been very slow for me these last few days and now it's cause patchbot to fail on one of my patches: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12630 So two questions: 1) Is trac slow for anyone else? Can something be done? 2) Will patchbot sort itself out or do I need to do something to

[sage-devel] Re: Question/Poll on 3D plot behavior

2012-06-13 Thread P Purkayastha
On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:24:09 AM UTC+8, Jonathan wrote: > > Test server at http://gutow.no-ip.org:8080 is up again. > > On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:31:27 PM UTC-5, Eviatar wrote: >> >> The applet does work on IcedTea 6, but some of the mesh and color options >> don't, as I mentioned. But y

[sage-devel] Re: Question/Poll on 3D plot behavior

2012-06-13 Thread Jonathan
Testing on Win 7: IE7: Static image displays. Clicking on the make interactive button gives the warning dialog about "many" of the advanced features not working and that the user should change browsers. Then nothing happens. The javascript that launches the applet seems to be ignored. It fa

Re: [sage-devel] Sage (tm)

2012-06-13 Thread William Stein
> On 06/13/12 12:37 AM, rjf wrote: >> 1. You are not protected from lawsuits simply by changing the name. >>  You might decrease the likelihood that the lawsuit will succeed against >> you. On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > You must *dramatically* reduce the likelihood of

Re: [sage-devel] Sage (tm)

2012-06-13 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > William has in the past admitted he has had people ask him for > support on the accounts package. No, they were asking for help on another SAGE: the "System for Administering Grants Electronically": http://sage.washington.edu/ -- Will

[sage-devel] Re: Question/Poll on 3D plot behavior

2012-06-13 Thread Jonathan
On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:54:29 PM UTC-5, P Purkayastha wrote: > > > On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:00:39 PM UTC+8, P Purkayastha wrote: >> >> >> >> The plots work on firefox-10 but doesn't work on the current stable or >> unstable version of opera. this is on 64bit gentoo linux. I will some mo

Re: [sage-devel] Sage (tm)

2012-06-13 Thread John Cremona
> >>> One other thing, what happens if you trademark it in the US, and >>> someone starts legal proceedings against users in the UK? >> >> >> I suggest that we refuse any download request from UK connections in that >> case :-D > > > But perhaps it could become more of an issue for people like John

[sage-devel] sagenb.org on SSD

2012-06-13 Thread Jason Grout
William just bought a new SSD hard drive and we just finished moving sagenb.org over to it (which also necessitated a few minutes of downtime). Please let us know if you see any problems. We hope it makes sagenb.org more responsive. On a different note, I installed the Mathjax patches at #97