On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:40 AM, William Stein wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> From my perspective as a Java application developer, the Oracle Java is the
>> official version and we work hard to maintain compatibility with that.  It
>> is up to the IcedTea people to have IcedTea be equivalent.
> 
> I'm glad Javascript developers don't have that perspective...
William,

I resent that statement and think it shows a misunderstanding about what is not 
working...The problem with the IcedTea browser plugin is associated with 
mishandling of data passing by the plugin.  This means things are mangled or in 
many cases simply not passed completely from the browser to the applet.  
Another way of saying this is that IcedTea does not implement its APIs as 
specified (they still have major bugs to fix). The  only way I would have to 
fix that is to rewrite the plugin code.  There is a limit to how many projects 
one can take on, plus I'm probably not the best person to work on it.  
Basically, to make things work in IcedTea we would simply have to give up on 
the functions that don't work  in it.  It seems better to build things to work 
in the standard Java since the goal of IcedTea is to make it operationally 
equivalent, which they are fast approaching.  My feeling is that the Linux 
community is jumping over to IcedTea as a standard prematurely.  That said 
users have a relatively straightforward option for converting back to the 
standard Java if they need to (see my previous comments).

You may have noticed that I have the same kinds of problems with IE which often 
does not abide by HTML or ECMAScript (JavaScript) standards.  This does not 
mean I don't try to make things work in IE, but at some point you have to 
decide if the effort is worth it.  I have and do spend a lot of time figuring 
out ways to make things work in as many environments as possible, but do not 
have infinite time.

Jonathan

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