[sage-devel] Re: building sage-5.0.beta13: error building gcc-4.6.3 under ubuntu

2012-04-15 Thread Hugh Thomas
Thanks to Jeroen and Dan for their help. Jeroen's suggestion that I apply the patches from 12825 worked fine for me. cheers, Hugh -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com F

Re: [sage-devel] GCC package (#12369) needs review

2012-04-15 Thread Dan Drake
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 at 09:49PM +0200, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > That's actually not true. Currently, GCC is built on all systems where > the system compiler is not GCC or is GCC version < 4.4.0. The > environment variable SAGE_INSTALL_GCC can be used to override this. ...also, we use our own gcc ins

[sage-devel] bug with Steenrod algebra coproduct

2012-04-15 Thread Pierre
Hi, This is wrong: sage: A= SteenrodAlgebra(3) sage: x= A.Q(0) sage: y= x.coproduct(); y # that's fine: 1 # Q_0 + Q_0 # 1 sage: x^2 # that's also true: 0 sage: y^2# gives a wrong answer 2*Q_0 # Q_0 Now y^2 should be zero because the coproduct is an algebra hom

[sage-devel] clang vs. gcc issue

2012-04-15 Thread John Cremona
Can anyone help discover why the new distribution of eclib which I have created (at http://homepages.warwick.ac.uk/staff/J.E.Cremona/ftp/progs/eclib-2012-04-15.tar.gz) fails exactly one test when compiled with clang but passes with various new versions of gcc? (See the report by Leif at http://ho

Re: [sage-devel] GCC package (#12369) needs review

2012-04-15 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-04-13 21:17, Ondřej Čertík wrote: > Ah, maybe the link went to a wrong email. I meant the email by Georg S. Weber > which says: > > the approach to "include our own GCC 4.5.1" is doomed to fail. Well, what can I say? It turns out that any potential issues with all the points raised in tha

Re: [sage-devel] GCC package (#12369) needs review

2012-04-15 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
Let me add a few clarifications to this email: On 2012-04-15 21:36, Georg S. Weber wrote: > "he who codes, rules" as the saying goes. I was wrong (and I'm glad > about it!). Just some comments w.r.t. the reasoning in that old message > of mine. Firstly, if I'm not mistaken, OS X is the only system

Re: [sage-devel] GCC package (#12369) needs review

2012-04-15 Thread Georg S. Weber
> Ah, maybe the link went to a wrong email. I meant the email by Georg S. > Weber > which says: > > " > the approach to "include our own GCC 4.5.1" is doomed to fail. > " > > and explains why, to which William replied "I think you really know > what you're talking about.". > > And since you did

[sage-devel] Re: How are devel/sage and devel/sagenb related?

2012-04-15 Thread Simon King
On 15 Apr., 21:03, Simon King wrote: > On 15 Apr., 20:10, Simon King wrote: > > > I'll try it! > > I did, but some patches didn't even apply. The instructions at #11080 didn't mention that sage-5.0.prealpha0 is too old. Perhaps I will try again, with sage-5.0.beta13. -- To post to this group,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FreeBSD port of stage

2012-04-15 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
On 04/15/2012 12:14 AM, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: On 04/14/2012 09:33 PM, kcrisman wrote: I would appreciate any help understanding the cause of the remaining errors. Luckily, first we want it to build - then we can fix the errors. Most look fairly technical - does sympow not work on it

[sage-devel] Re: How are devel/sage and devel/sagenb related?

2012-04-15 Thread Simon King
On 15 Apr., 20:10, Simon King wrote: > I'll try it! I did, but some patches didn't even apply. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at h

[sage-devel] Re: How are devel/sage and devel/sagenb related?

2012-04-15 Thread Simon King
PS: On 15 Apr., 18:54, Keshav Kini wrote: > (See ticket #11080 for an SPKG to install.) I'll try it! -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this gro

[sage-devel] Re: How are devel/sage and devel/sagenb related?

2012-04-15 Thread Simon King
Hi Keshav, On 15 Apr., 18:54, Keshav Kini wrote: > Possibly the stuff has moved from sagenb to Sage proper in preparation > for the Flask notebook If I am not mistaken, the sageinspect.py file in Sage was first commited in the release of sage-2.3, March 2007, whereas the file in sagenb was first

[sage-devel] Re: How are devel/sage and devel/sagenb related?

2012-04-15 Thread Keshav Kini
Keshav Kini writes: > this weird code reuse I mean, this weird lack of code reuse, of course :) -Keshav Join us in #sagemath on irc.freenode.net ! -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr.

[sage-devel] Re: How are devel/sage and devel/sagenb related?

2012-04-15 Thread Keshav Kini
Simon King writes: > However, looking at the code, I wonder: There is devel/sage/sage/misc/ > sageinspect.py, and there also is devel/sagenb/sagenb/misc/ > sageinspect.py. The two files are *different*, in fact the file in > sagenb does not contain some patches that are important for source > insp

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Tickets #715, #11521 and #12313 need 32 bits testing

2012-04-15 Thread John Cremona
I can also test these on my laptop. I'll first do #715 and #11521 which go together, and run a full testlong on them. John On 15 April 2012 16:33, john_perry_usm wrote: > On Apr 14, 7:57 am, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: >> We're currently stuck with Simon on tickets #715, #11521 and #12313, >> bec

[sage-devel] How are devel/sage and devel/sagenb related?

2012-04-15 Thread Simon King
Hi! I try to understand the problem tracked at #11913: If a doc test of an object tests against an error, then both the doc string and the source code are truncated when attempting ?/?? inspection in the notebook. For example, do sage.graphs.graph_coloring.all_graph_colorings? or sage.graphs.gr

[sage-devel] Re: Tickets #715, #11521 and #12313 need 32 bits testing

2012-04-15 Thread john_perry_usm
On Apr 14, 7:57 am, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > We're currently stuck with Simon on tickets #715, #11521 and #12313, > because we do not have access to 32 bits systems. I can do it. I have a very old 32-bit system that I sometimes use both to develop & test patches. What precisely should I test w/

[sage-devel] Re: SPKG Repositories (M4RI(E))

2012-04-15 Thread Keshav Kini
Martin Albrecht writes: > 2) unpacks upstream sources (perhaps even as indicated in a file tracked by > the repository) Downloading and unpacking upstream sources from a remote location indicated in a file tracked by the repository is very good idea, IMO. In fact I hope eventually at least this

Re: Re: [sage-devel] Re: SPKG Repositories (M4RI(E))

2012-04-15 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Sunday 15 Apr 2012, John Cremona wrote: > +1 from me, for exactly the reasons Martin gives. When I am making a > new eclib spkg (as I am now) I waste time sorting through all the old > ones littering my computers. But one can always just unpack the spkg > in the latest Sage (devel) release --

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SPKG Repositories (M4RI(E))

2012-04-15 Thread John Cremona
+1 from me, for exactly the reasons Martin gives. When I am making a new eclib spkg (as I am now) I waste time sorting through all the old ones littering my computers. But one can always just unpack the spkg in the latest Sage (devel) release -- is what is being proposed any easier? John On 15

[sage-devel] Re: SPKG Repositories (M4RI(E))

2012-04-15 Thread Keshav Kini
Martin Albrecht writes: >> If, as I infer from your wording, you propose consolidating all the SPKG >> repos into a single repo, > > No! Not at all. This might be good or bad down the road, but I am definitely > not proposing this now. Instead I say we should keep canonical copies of each > SPK

[sage-devel] Re: reply to Trac via e-mail?

2012-04-15 Thread Keshav Kini
Martin Albrecht writes: > I was wondering how hard it would be (i.e., whether someone knows of a Trac > plugin for this) to allow replying to Trac comments via e-mail. It would > speed > up the trivial to answer question response time etc. It seems the Trac developers are against the idea of a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SPKG Repositories (M4RI(E))

2012-04-15 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi, On Sunday 15 Apr 2012, Keshav Kini wrote: > Martin Albrecht writes: > > Hi, > > > > I don't know about you, but I screw up surprisingly often when it comes > > to cutting SPKGs (starting off from old versions, copying wrong files > > etc.). > > > > I figured perhaps we should make use of th

Re: [sage-devel] SPKG Repositories (M4RI(E))

2012-04-15 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-04-15 13:50, Martin Albrecht wrote: > Hi, > > I don't know about you, but I screw up surprisingly often when it comes to > cutting SPKGs (starting off from old versions, copying wrong files etc.). > > I figured perhaps we should make use of the repositories we have inside the > SPKGs al

[sage-devel] Re: SPKG Repositories (M4RI(E))

2012-04-15 Thread Keshav Kini
Martin Albrecht writes: > Hi, > > I don't know about you, but I screw up surprisingly often when it comes to > cutting SPKGs (starting off from old versions, copying wrong files etc.). > > I figured perhaps we should make use of the repositories we have inside the > SPKGs already. The idea being

[sage-devel] Re: How to build patch for documentation

2012-04-15 Thread Keshav Kini
ancienthart writes: > Thanks guys. I've finished my holidays so it'll probably be next weekend > before > I get to this. > Michael, I'm assuming that step 1 (building from source rather than using a > binary package) explains why I've been getting errors with hg patch? Well, for one thing, `hg p

[sage-devel] SPKG Repositories (M4RI(E))

2012-04-15 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi, I don't know about you, but I screw up surprisingly often when it comes to cutting SPKGs (starting off from old versions, copying wrong files etc.). I figured perhaps we should make use of the repositories we have inside the SPKGs already. The idea being that all changes to SPKGs are pushed

[sage-devel] reply to Trac via e-mail?

2012-04-15 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi, I was wondering how hard it would be (i.e., whether someone knows of a Trac plugin for this) to allow replying to Trac comments via e-mail. It would speed up the trivial to answer question response time etc. Cheers, Martin -- name: Martin Albrecht _pgp: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?

Re: [sage-devel] How to build patch for documentation

2012-04-15 Thread ancienthart
Thanks guys. I've finished my holidays so it'll probably be next weekend before I get to this. Michael, I'm assuming that step 1 (building from source rather than using a binary package) explains why I've been getting errors with hg patch? Joal Heagney On Saturday, 14 April 2012 02:32:34 UTC+10

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.8 fails to build on ArchLinux x64

2012-04-15 Thread Keshav Kini
oNNy writes: > It still fails, even using the latest dev version sage-5.0.beta15. By the way, the latest dev version is sage-5.0.beta13. Any later versions than that are still in the progress of being assembled by the release manager. Read for example the following file: http://boxen.math.washi

[sage-devel] Re: Installing newer spkgs on older Sage versions

2012-04-15 Thread Keshav Kini
Simon King writes: > So, I think a new *standard* spkg is not required to work with an older > Sage version. > > However, an optional or experimental spkg is downloaded by people, and > we don't know the version of Sage they are using. Of course, one might > think of making the version of the down